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Extracting coordinates
[edit]How did you do so for Hobe Mountain? I would like to do so in another article of mine. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 15:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- @CapeVerdeWave: I use Wikimapia. Typically I click on the coordinates already in the article, or if there are none I open an article about a nearby place and click there. A link to Wikimapia is listed on the geohack.toolforge page. First I just look around Wikimapia because if you hover the name of the place pops up. Sometimes I use the Search Categories function (the text search in the upper right is largely useless). Wikimapia allows you to toggle between Google and Bing to get a better look. The exact coordinates that the reticle is pointing to are given in the lower left corner, and clicking on them brings up a window to copy from. Then I paste them and format in the Wikipedia article according to the guidance at WP:OPCOORD. Abductive (reasoning) 19:45, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Abductive: Unfortunately, the site in question—a landform—does not exist on WikiMapia, but does on Google Maps/Earth. (There is no way to look it up on GeoHack.) If I enter its name, how can I extract DMS coordinates? Also, if seconds contain decimals, do I round? CapeVerdeWave (talk) 10:28, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @CapeVerdeWave: Well, if you want to use Google Maps, you just right-click on the object, and click on the coordinates given at the top of the pop-up, which automatically copies them to the clipboard. Then you paste them into your article. Google Maps gives way too many digits, which is thought to be a sort of a copyright trap, so you round or truncate to about 4 digits per WP:OPCOORD. Abductive (reasoning) 13:50, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Abductive: Unfortunately, the site in question—a landform—does not exist on WikiMapia, but does on Google Maps/Earth. (There is no way to look it up on GeoHack.) If I enter its name, how can I extract DMS coordinates? Also, if seconds contain decimals, do I round? CapeVerdeWave (talk) 10:28, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
GNIS is primary and unreliable
[edit]Could you please explain your recent edit to Port O'Connor, Texas in which you reverted my recent update to the article with no explanation. Vsmith (talk) 16:55, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- So you are saying that GNIS is unreliable, but the version you are restoring is also using GNIS as a source. Please explain. Vsmith (talk) 22:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- GNIS is down right now, but for the majority of features it points to what seem to be random spots. Google Maps, Bing Maps, Yahoo Maps, Yandex, and OSM point to the centers of towns, and often agree exactly. The coordinates I am restoring across Wikipedia to undo the damage you are causing are selected using those secondary sources. Abductive (reasoning) 10:14, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- and are you referencing those sources in your changes? In the Port O'Connor article you simply reverted to an older GNIS value. How is that helpful? Vsmith (talk) 15:13, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- GNIS is down right now, but for the majority of features it points to what seem to be random spots. Google Maps, Bing Maps, Yahoo Maps, Yandex, and OSM point to the centers of towns, and often agree exactly. The coordinates I am restoring across Wikipedia to undo the damage you are causing are selected using those secondary sources. Abductive (reasoning) 10:14, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Due to your last absurd edit the article has been protected temporarily. You are welcome to discuss on the talk page. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 20:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Are you saying that, due to a editing dispute with me, you used your powers as an admin to lock the article? Abductive (reasoning) 00:43, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- The talk page for the article is the place for discussing changes to the article. Please take your discussion there. Vsmith (talk) 19:40, 20 July 2025 (UTC)