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![]() | On 21 August 2025, it was proposed that this page be moved to Template:Topicon. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Line under topicons
[edit]The line under the topicons doesn't stretch across the whole page anymore on Vector 2010. Now the line abruptly ends once it reaches the topicons. The line still goes all the way across on Vector 2022 though. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:36, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 2 January 2025
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Add templatedata. You can deviate a bit from the example below
A topicon meta-template
Parameter | Description | Type | Status | |
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Image to use as icon | imagename image 1 | Image file to use as icon
| File | required |
The link the image goes to | wikilink link 2 | The page to link to. This is where you will be taken when clicking the icon
| Page name | suggested |
The text shown when hovered | description text 3 | The tooltip will display this text when the mouse pointer hovers over the icon
| String | suggested |
The id of the top icon | id name | A unique id is required when using different top icons on the same page
| String | optional |
The alt text of the image | alt | The alternative text of the image | String | optional |
The ordering of the icons | sortkey | Allows ordering the icons according to the sortkey given
| String | optional |
The width of icons | width | Uses a different width for the images
| Number | optional |
The height of icons | height | Uses a different height for the images
| Number | optional |
A category for user space | usercat | Adds a category to be added in userspace
| Page name | optional |
A category for the article mainspace | maincat | Adds a category to be added in the article mainspace
| Page name | optional |
For categorization on subpages | subpage | For categorization on subpages
| String | optional |
Disable categories added | nocat | Disables the automatically added category
| String | optional |
THE PENGUIN CABAL DOES NOT EXIST
Unfortunately, I can't type on mobile, so someone will have to finish it later... Finished!Apenguinlover<talk>() 11:25, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Not done:
{{edit template-protected}}
is usually not required for edits to the documentation or categories of templates using a documentation subpage. Use the 'edit' link at the top of the green "Template documentation" box to edit the documentation subpage. Anomie⚔ 16:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)- Whoops, sorry. Apenguinlover<talk>() 17:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
External link
[edit]Is it possible to have the link of the top icon be external?
Thanks, QuickQuokka [talk • contribs] 21:56, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 21 August 2025
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Consistency as proposed is a good argument, but template naming guidelines are far better for deciding such names, as declared by opposers. (closed by non-admin page mover) CNC (talk) 19:40, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Template:Top icon → Template:Topicon – Related templates such as {{Accountcreator topicon}}, {{Rollback topicon}}, and {{Autopatrolled topicon}} all use one word, and in discussions "topicon" is more common than "top icon".
We should standardize around one version, and given current usage it seems like one word would be the easier target. Although there is a bit of a readability tradeoff, "topicon" has the advantage of helping clarify that we're referring to a specific type of icon in the upper right, not just a generic icon at the top of the page (which could also be e.g. the logo at the upper left). Sdkb talk 15:50, 21 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 02:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support Makes sense. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:07, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support per OP. Zinnober9 (talk) 17:40, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. If you want to standardize, you should go the other way. Per WP:TPN (guideline):
Template names are easiest to remember if they follow standard English spelling, spacing, and capitalization
. "Topicon" is not a word, but two words, "Top" and "icon". It is much clearer when it is two words. Does the proposer or the two supports have any guideline that supports their opinions or just "I like it"? Gonnym (talk) 10:07, 25 August 2025 (UTC)- Your readability argument for two words is reasonable, and I'd take standardizing around that over maintaining the split status quo. But if you think the argument for standardizing around one word is just "I like it," then please reread my !vote. And if you're wondering what policy/guideline supports the idea of using clear and precise language in names, there are several, but here's one. Sdkb talk 16:17, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- There needs to be a reason to ignore all rules. The policy clearly states
If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it
. Your proposal does not improve readability (as an example) and following the current template guideline does. Gonnym (talk) 17:59, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- There needs to be a reason to ignore all rules. The policy clearly states
- Your readability argument for two words is reasonable, and I'd take standardizing around that over maintaining the split status quo. But if you think the argument for standardizing around one word is just "I like it," then please reread my !vote. And if you're wondering what policy/guideline supports the idea of using clear and precise language in names, there are several, but here's one. Sdkb talk 16:17, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Template guidelines recommend clear language. "Topicon" is not a word, and its resemblance to the word "topic" might be confusing. This template has been stable at this name since 2008. If anything, pages using the made-up word "topicon" should be moved to use "top icon". It appears that Category:Top icon templates and related categories mostly use the two-word version, but most template pages are still using the one-word version. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:57, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support "topicon" is an internal term with a specific meanings, not a descriptive phrase. It isn't just "top" + "icon". * Pppery * it has begun... 03:27, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
- ??? It's an icon that is at the top of the page. A top icon, if you will. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:48, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
- Putting myself in the shoes of someone who isn't familiar with them: I see an icon that is at the top of the page. It's the Wikipedia logo in the upper left. It fits the descriptive phrase perfectly, so that means it's a top icon too, right? Sdkb talk 19:02, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
- ??? It's an icon that is at the top of the page. A top icon, if you will. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:48, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see the reason to standardize (not in 20 years I've had someone ask about what topicon is, and it's a pretty niche thing of wikipedia to begin with). Overall this is something we shouldn't worry about too much, unless readers see it every single day in my opinion. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
- Standardization just makes everything easier. For instance, if there are templates/categories related to topicons, if we've standardized on the term for them we need to worry less about creating redirects from one spelling to the other. Sdkb talk 18:59, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per Gonnym. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 13:38, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per Gonnym. The spacing helps me as I don't parse 'topicon' into two words (I read it like Rubicon). I would support moving the examples in the nomination to the 'top icon' variants. ⇌ Synpath 19:46, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. This proposed rename would change the title of the template, which currently meets WP:TPN, to a name that would no longer do so. We should be following established consensus on this matter, and this proposal would be doing the exact opposite. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)