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salam g kasa ho 116.71.160.72 (talk) 17:40, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, IP 116+, who are you? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 13:19, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 27 November 2023

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Description of suggested change: The last bullet point about links to this page should have appended: "For redirects to this page, see {{R avoided double redirect}}."

Frankly, the infobox is annoyingly verbose already, but I think the addition is important precisely because it's an unusual special case that many editors may not be familiar with.

As an optional second edit, the order of the points is perhaps not ideal. I'd list the points that apply to all such redirects first, and details peculiar to the template namespace later. Suggested order:

  • When the target page becomes too large...
  • If the topic of the redirect is not susceptible to expansion...
  • Since a new page may be created...
  • {{R printworthy}} should be used...
  • When used on a template redirect...

Since the last two points both apply to redirects in a particular namespace, it'd be nice to make their phrasing more obviously parallel, but I'm out of ideas at the moment.

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** Since a new page may be created, links to this redirect ''should '''not''''' be replaced with a direct link to the target page.
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** Since a new page may be created, links to this redirect ''should '''not''''' be replaced with a direct link to the target page. For ''redirects'' to this page, see {{tl|R avoided double redirect}}.

97.102.205.224 (talk) 00:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've implemented these changes in the sandbox. Will wait a few days to see if anyone else has comments before implementing. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:51, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
These sound like improvements to the rcat template, so with you on this, editor Elli. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 21:34, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Elli: Thank you! 97.102.205.224 (talk) 22:30, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Elli: I noticed you used a different wording that I suggested. The sandbox reads "For making redirects to this page...", where the word "making" is an addition. I presume it's a deliberate addition on your part, so I'm not going to just revert it without discussion, but I'm definitely curious: why add that word? I think it's clear enough without it (the linked template's documentation explains the details) and brevity is a virtue. Also, the wording seems awkward. If you want the word "make", just say "To make redirects to this page...", which both reads better and is shorter.
My mental image is an editor who isn't so much trying to create a WP:Double redirect (that's easy), but rather trying to fix the fact that it doesn't work. In the grand Wikipedia tradition, There's A Template For That™; people just need to know what it's called. Thus, the simple "For". 97.102.205.224 (talk) 14:56, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Like "To make redirects..." as well. Shy away from "-ing" endings, because "to make" is much stronger than "for making". Powerful words usually get better results. Think "to make redirects" is also better than "for redirects" in terms of clarity. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 23:04, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Both of you are right about the phrasing; I've switched it to "to make". Will implement the new text in the template now. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:25, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Elli (talk | contribs) 00:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I feel like there should be a link to WP:NOTBROKEN when we mention that links to this redirect should not be replaced with a direct link to the target page. Not making an edit request because I'm unsure whether other editors think this would be helpful or not, but just wanted to throw this out there. Gracen (they/them) 15:50, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew 175.100.79.149 (talk) 05:46, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 14 November 2025

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Remove the {{tfm}} template in the first two lines. This was notice of a TFD that has been acted upon and has had no effect on this template. See Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2025_November_5#Redirect_comics_templates. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:22, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 06:27, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]