Template talk:Infobox organization

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Request to seperate out "Main Organ" and "Publication"

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Requesting that the |main_organ= be seperated from |publication= and allow both concurrently to be used within an infobox.

Currently they are bundled together as being a single para meant to represent "Organization's principal body (assembly, committee, board) or publication". As it stands that "or" is doing a fair bit of heavy lifting. The governing/principal body of an organisation is very different to a publication of such an organisation, with many organisations indeed having both a governing body, and an associated publication Bejakyo (talk) 03:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 11:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 3 December 2024

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Description of suggested change: For the parameter "staff_year" can it be changed back to the way it used to work, i.e. displaying the year on the left side of the infobox - exactly the same way as "volunteers_year", "revenue_year", "budget_year", etc. It seems very odd for this one parameter to have been changed to work differently. Thanks. --10mmsocket (talk) 08:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think they should all be moved to the right side, where the rest of the parameter values live. See {{Infobox organization/testcases}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TBH that's a much better solution. 10mmsocket (talk) 15:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the changes to the live template. Please report any problems here. Thanks for pointing out this inconsistency. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The "Expenses" line is showing an error. 10mmsocket (talk) 21:12, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:03, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Could the word "in" before the year be removed, as it's clear what the year refers to? This would return the template to being in line with long-standing usage at {{Infobox company}}. Graham (talk) 23:32, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please make the requested change in the sandbox so that we can see the difference you intend on the testcases page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Graham (talk) 06:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Jonesey95 in case they missed this. Graham (talk) 03:26, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I fixed one more in the sandbox and then figured I would wait to see if anyone objected. Seeing no objections, I have implemented this request. I don't see it as controversial, but I don't really have a view on it one way or the other (unlike the above change, which I supported). – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Calculating profits and losses

I have some ideas about how to have this template automagically report the under-/over-run of revenue and expenses. I've described them at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 216#Simple math in template and leave this note here as a reminder to me and to let others know, too. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:58, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Organizations use all sorts of tricky accounting moves to calculate financial numbers. I would feel much more comfortable with a separate parameter that reported profits or losses based on numbers reported in a reliable source rather than us doing original research and possibly calculating numbers that are different from those reported by the organizations in public documents. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Non-profits technically don't have "profits", so my section heading is misleading.

There's not much room for tricky things here: it's just revenue minus expenses (preferably set as a percentage).

There are all kinds of tricky things one can do about declaring something to be an expense or not (recent example), and for publicly traded companies, which should be using {{infobox company}} instead, there will be people who say that you should ignore this simple number and instead focus on something like EBIDTA (nicknamed "earnings before expenses"), but this particular calculation is very straightforward. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 25 June 2025

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Description of suggested change: Please make it possible to add additional image classes to the template so I can use 'skin-invert' in Template:Infobox theatre group and finally Takarazuka Revue to make the logo become visible in the dark mode correctly.

Diff: Either by

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| imageclass = logo

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| imageclass = logo {{{logo_class|}}}

or adding it to InfoboxImage invocation. −Ebrahim^talk 18:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]