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Section sizes Section size for Views of Elon Musk (38 sections) Section name Byte count Prose size (words) Header Total Header Total (Top) 5,711 5,711 320 320 Politics and elections 5,149 161,844 119 4,365 United States 6,260 54,381 93 1,347 2016–2020 6,563 6,563 242 242 2021–present 7,912 7,912 194 194 Donald Trump 3,880 17,771 67 437 2016–2020 6,488 6,488 178 178 2022 feud 4,946 4,946 146 146 2025 feud 2,457 2,457 46 46 2024 presidential election 5,537 5,537 223 223 Public office 10,338 10,338 158 158 Free speech 20,846 20,846 440 440 Gun rights 1,647 1,647 94 94 Ideology 10,877 10,877 403 403 Immigration 15,411 15,411 443 443 Judiciary 1,582 1,582 88 88 Labor rights 2,139 2,139 71 71 Race and white nationalism 28,092 28,092 600 600 LGBTQ rights 5,822 21,720 213 760 On transgender topics 15,898 15,898 547 547 Science and technology 1,498 77,521 73 2,156 Artificial intelligence 13,420 13,420 436 436 COVID-19 pandemic 29,499 29,499 601 601 International Space Station 4,402 4,402 249 249 Mars 4,686 4,686 113 113 Military technology 1,545 1,545 58 58 Public transport 6,857 6,857 201 201 Social media 1,990 1,990 71 71 Wikipedia 13,624 13,624 354 354 International relations 10,467 10,467 200 200 Conspiracy theories 6,892 6,892 182 182 Finance and taxes 6,947 6,947 237 237 Philosophy and religion 28 11,659 0 360 Natalism 5,442 5,442 206 206 Religion 6,189 6,189 154 154 Notes 26 26 0 0 References 28 28 0 0 Further reading 603 603 0 0 Total 281,698 281,698 7,820 7,820

Tweets

I don't like to touch these contentious topics, but I happened upon this page and I feel like the overuse of tweets makes this look much more like a WikiNews article than an encyclopedia article. Articles of a similar type such as Political positions of Donald Trump, Views of Kanye West, etc. do not include tweets at all, let alone to this degree. That alone isn't enough to warrant removing them of course, but I think it's worth consideration. Kylemahar902 (talk) 00:49, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with @Kylemahar902. And it's not just the tweets but the excessive use of quote boxes to provide quotations from a variety of sources. Some of these provide a full quotation when the source has already been adequately summarised and quoted in text. The article is not following MOS:QUOTE and even Template:Quote box says its use is only rarely appropriate in articles. Pretty much every single one should be removed. Vladimir.copic (talk) 00:34, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delayed reply I missed this comment. The quotations to boxes and quotes helped trim the article from 9.5K to 7K words, because previously this content was based in the prose (where I don't believe it was due, but rather as additional media as it were, to represent the prose). I'm certain you will find thousands of words quoted in the prose of articles you referenced, and numerous other articles in a similar vein, which in my opinion is undue and better served as additional info.

I'd otherwise say it helps to improve NPOV, from quoting Musk directly (rather than any tit bits or otherwise to highlight that is exactly or all he said for example), rather than opinions being taken out of context to some degree (which I considered on a few occasions), and as importantly highlight where they are precisely within the context described in the prose. Maybe this is more of V benefit, but personally I consider it more NPOV, given there are enough criticisms quoted as well, and it helps to balance the general negativity in the prose (which is certainly due imo). Ie, provide all sides to the discussion, in equal balance based on RS - remembering that RS often highlight entire tweets in media format, as well as replicated in prose. While WP is not a media outlet, granted, we strive for a certain NPOV that is a balance of RS nonetheless, if that makes any sense?

Regardless of all that, this is certainly a worthwhile discussion to be had, as while working on the article I wondered how tf do I trim 25% of this within losing all the additionally content, ie the direct quotations. How to represent the topic with relevant media, when it is all based on opinions and views when images are naturally scarcely due. And I'd like to see how views articles can otherwise reach good quality without such drastic reformatting and structure, to provide more focus full indepth coverage of such a topic. I'd love to hear the alternatives as it were. Personally, I'd like to see a Views based GA as a comparison, rather than any of run of the mill article. Given this is a GAN and I know how to get articles to GA standard, generally speaking.

Regards, CNC (talk) 07:46, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding those two articles briefly, now I've got to a computer. The trump one is another overblown trump article, too big and needs trimming, or more like bold splitting. C class for a reason. Kayne one looks better, more focused, but lacks relevant supporting material for B class, hence also I imagine C. I've only looked briefly, not read the entire thing, but that's the impression I get. Not good examples imo basically, ideally we'd be comparing this to a GA or at minimum another B class. CNC (talk) 08:08, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Dickapedia" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Dickapedia has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 April 4 § Dickapedia until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 17:45, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Musk and Archeofuturism.

Musk commented on the repost of a user, in which the user embraced the idea of Guillaume Faye's Archeofuturism, the original post came from the European New Rightb ublisher Arktos Media (Arktos Journal on X). Musk agreed with the users words on the post of the Arktos Journal about Archeofururism. I think we should include it, even it is not much, I would say it's interesting. Sadly the source is only this X post: https://x.com/DeeperThrill/status/1814836810658250875?t=B_-1Azkga1Dztp8jnpFo-Q&s=19 . Even X isn't a reliable source it is somstimes used as source when it is about Musk's views. 77.183.34.126 (talk) 19:19, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing about Islamophobia?

Much of his X posts consist of nothing more than Islamophobic conspiracy theories in the UK… Catofminerva (talk) 16:21, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]