Ron English vs BP

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There were several sentences in the article about Ron English specifically not attacking BP or Obama and being sponsored by Altria. I removed them because they were written in an unencyclopedic style and were unsourced. If anyone wants to find some references to back up these claims and add them back to the article that would be great. --Jrstewart (talk) 08:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This reads like PR material

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Visual language of evolution? seriously?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.122.225 (talk) 13:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ron English entry

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This is not an objective Wiki entry. It reads like it was written by the artist's publicist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.230.104.30 (talk) 23:16, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And over five years later, it's still horrible. But I hope that it's now not as bad as it has been in the past, e.g. here on 8 January 2011, or indeed here on 7 March 2017. -- Hoary (talk) 02:24, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 11 September 2019

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved  — Amakuru (talk) 09:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]



Ron English (artist)Ron EnglishWP:TWODABS--just use a hatnote. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 05:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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Removal of material

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Lilygenovese, why did you remove a large amount of material in this edit? -- Hoary (talk) 00:22, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth and sourcing

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I recently updated the lead and infobox to remove the specific day and month of Ron English’s birth, leaving only the year 1959.

Previously, the article stated that he was born on June 6, 1959, supported by a weak web source. There are a number of online sources that give different dates or repeat the “June 6” date, but they appear to be low-quality, derivative listings rather than strong biographical references, and they do not agree with each other.

I have now cited the year 1959 to the Museo de la Paz de Gernika exhibition page “Ron English: Reimagining Guernica” (https://www.museodelapaz.eus/en/exposicion/ron-english-reimagining-guernica/), which gives 1959 as his birth year. Given the conflicting and low-weight web dates, and per WP:BLP and WP:DOB, I think it is safer at present to state only the year of birth and not a specific day or month, unless and until stronger, independent sources can be found that agree on a full date.

If anyone is aware of high-quality, independent sources that reliably give the full date of birth, please feel free to mention them here so the article can be updated accordingly. SusanFlorez (talk) 12:42, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sugar Circus sourcing

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I’ve updated the sentence about Ron English’s immersive installation Sugar Circus in Shenzhen.

Previously, the article cited an inf.news URL and a briteshopper.com blog post. The inf.news domain is on the spam blacklist, and briteshopper does not appear to be a reliable, independent source. I removed both and replaced them with a reference to the Shenzhen Government Online listing for the event, which confirms the Shenzhen location and “Sugar Circus” installation details.

The current sentence is:

In November 2021, English's immersive installation Sugar Circus opened at The Nest in Q Plex in Nanshan District, Shenzhen, China.[1]

I also removed the claim that this “marked the beginning of the exhibition’s world tour,” as I wasn’t able to find a high-quality independent source that explicitly supports that wording. If anyone has better sources for the “world tour” aspect, they’re very welcome to suggest them here. SusanFlorez (talk) 12:52, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead rewrite

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I have updated the lead.

The previous lead was quite short and didn’t reflect several major areas (e.g. Delusionville, The Rabbbits, collaborations with brands such as Kidrobot and Nike, and recent digital/NFT projects). The new lead:

  • Keeps the birth year as 1959, supported by the Museo de la Paz de Gernika exhibition source.
  • Summarizes his work across painting, murals, designer toys, and billboard interventions.
  • Briefly introduces Delusionville and The Rabbbits.
  • Mentions key collaborations and charity-related projects (NFT drops and COVID-19 masks).
  • Retains the “godfather of street art”/street-art figure wording, backed by independent media sources.

All statements in the lead are supported by citations either already present in the body or added from reliable sources. If anyone has concerns about the wording or sourcing, please feel free to adjust or discuss here. SusanFlorez (talk) 13:47, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Career section rewrite and expansion

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I have rewritten and expanded the Career section to improve structure, sourcing, and coverage of English’s work. The previous version was a short narrative that mixed together street work, album covers, the Super Size Me appearance, Abraham Obama, the Popaganda documentary, The Simpsons cameo, and Sugar Circus. All of those points are still present in the article, but they are now grouped and sourced more systematically: The opening paragraph now summarizes the range of his activity (painting, street art, designer toys, music, digital projects) and introduces POPaganda, MC Supersized, and Abraham Obama using multiple independent sources. New paragraphs separate his early culture-jamming and billboard work, his studio painting (including the long-running Guernica series), and the development of the Delusionville universe. Music projects are covered in two parts: The Rabbbits (as a Delusionville-related band) and his album-cover work for The Dandy Warhols, Slash, Chris Brown, and others. Media appearances (Spurlock documentaries, Popaganda, The Simpsons, and Street Art Throwdown) are grouped in one paragraph with updated citations. The Sugar Circus installation is now part of a broader paragraph on immersive installations and digital projects, which also notes his Delusionville theme for elrow events and documented NFT / “phygital” collaborations with Nifty Gateway and VeVe. All additions are based on published gallery bios, exhibition materials, press coverage, and interviews, and are intended to remain descriptive and neutral. Feedback and further improvements are very welcome. SusanFlorez (talk) 23:29, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Murals, street art and public interventions – section rewrite

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I have rewritten and retitled the former “Street art” section as “Murals, street art and public interventions” to improve structure, sourcing and neutrality. The old text briefly mentioned his early campaigns, the “Godfather of Street Art” label, culture jamming, product-packaging parodies and a general claim that he has created murals worldwide. Most of this was unsourced or based on weak sources. The new section summarizes his billboard and street interventions as part of culture jamming, with multiple reliable sources for the “godfather of street art” description, his use of altered mascots (Joe Camel, Ronald McDonald, etc.) and his stated aim of critiquing consumer capitalism. The collaboration with the Billboard Liberation Front is now supported by BLF’s own history and an independent interview source, rather than being an unsourced assertion. The murals paragraph has been expanded with specific, sourced examples (Richmond Mural Project, Urban Nation, Wynwood Walls, Jersey City) instead of the generic “murals throughout the world” claim. Unsourced and somewhat promotional detail about “Team POPaganda” shop-gifting product packages and individual spoof brands has been removed pending stronger independent sourcing. All new or revised statements are backed by cited sources; the goal is to keep the section descriptive and neutral while giving readers a clearer picture of his street and mural work. Further suggestions or source improvements are very welcome. SusanFlorez (talk) 10:34, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Culture jamming and billboard interventions section

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I have added a new section titled “Culture jamming and billboard interventions” to expand on one specific strand of English’s public work. Previously, the article mentioned culture jamming, mascots, and the Billboard Liberation Front briefly in the street art section. The new section: Summarises his billboard practice as part of culture jamming/subvertising, using sources such as the POPaganda monograph and newspaper/film coverage. Gives sourced examples of recurring billboard imagery (Joe Camel parodies, obese Ronald McDonald figures, “grin” faces on mascots and political figures). Describes his spoof product packaging and “reverse shoplifting” projects using independent interviews. Clarifies his relationship with the Billboard Liberation Front using the group’s own history and secondary writing on ad takeovers. The aim is to separate this material from the general “Murals, street art and public interventions” section, improve sourcing, and keep the description neutral and descriptive rather than promotional. Further comments or source suggestions are very welcome. SusanFlorez (talk) 10:50, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite of “Fine art” section and updated sources

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I have substantially rewritten the “Fine art” section to improve structure, clarity and sourcing. Compared with the previous text, the new version: Keeps the basic biographical points (BFA from North Texas, move to New York, apprenticeship/early career) but supports them with gallery/museum biographies and presents them in a single opening paragraph rather than scattered sentences.

Expands the description of English’s painting style (photorealism, secondary colour, pop imagery, use of childhood motifs and commercial surfaces) using independent exhibition texts and catalogue notes instead of unsourced generalisations.

Groups the discussion of his appropriation of pop-culture characters (Grin/Charlie Brown, MC Supersized, Marilyn Monroe with Mickey Mouse features) into one sourced paragraph, rather than listing them without context.

Reorganises the material on his Guernica-based works: ‘‘Grade School Guernica’’, the broader Guernica series, and the Allouche/Elms Lesters/Colección SOLO exhibitions are now treated as a coherent thread with updated references (Gernika Peace Museum, Allouche Gallery, Untapped Cities, etc.) replacing dead or unstable links.

Keeps key solo shows (Lazarus Rising, Seasons in Supurbia, Skin Deep) but summarises them with citations rather than as an unsourced list.

The intention is to retain all the encyclopedic information from the old section, remove unsourced or promotional phrasing, and base each claim on verifiable references. If other editors feel specific exhibitions or sources should be added, trimmed, or reweighted, I’m happy to adjust. SusanFlorez (talk) 11:17, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite of “Designer toys” section

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I have rewritten the “Designer toys” section to make it more encyclopedic and better integrated with the rest of the article. The section now begins with a short overview of English’s sculptural and designer-toy work, summarising how this fits into his broader POPaganda practice and citing museum/company profiles (Urban Nation, Kidrobot).

The individual toy projects are grouped into one paragraph instead of listed separately. It keeps the same key examples as before: Ronnie/Ronnnie Rabbbit with Dark Horse, the Slash bust sculpture, the Dum English Astronaut Star Skull collaboration, and the Falla Sheep figures with Pearl Jam.

Each example is supported with specific sources (e.g. Artoyz interview for Ronnie Rabbit, Clutter for the Slash bust and Falla Sheep, Complex for Dum English), and the wording has been adjusted to stay neutral and descriptive.

The goal is to preserve the information that was already in the article while giving readers clearer context on how these toys relate to English’s wider body of work. Happy to revise if anyone has concerns about wording or weight. SusanFlorez (talk) 11:59, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead and structure copyedit

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I have made a set of structural and wording changes to the article with the aim of improving compliance with WP:LEAD and reducing repetition, without removing sourced content.

  • The lead has been copyedited and slightly shortened. It now summarizes English’s main areas of work (POPaganda, recurring mascots, street art, Delusionville/The Rabbbits, toys/fashion/digital projects, documentaries and TV) in three paragraphs instead of repeating details that are already covered in the body. Brand-level and platform-level specifics (e.g. Kidrobot, Nike KD 14, VeVe, charity names) have been left to the relevant sections below, per WP:SUMMARYSTYLE.
  • Details about NFT drops whose proceeds went to the New Zealand Red Cross, and the COVID-era face masks benefiting MedShare, have been moved from the lead into the “2010s and 2020s” paragraph on immersive installations and digital collectibles, where they are now described explicitly as fundraising projects using the existing sources.
  • In the “Murals, street art and public interventions” section, I added a brief sentence noting a collaborative mural project in Los Angeles with Risk and Shepard Fairey, citing the existing PBS SoCal source. This gives a concrete example for the lead’s mention of collaborations with other street artists.
  • In the paragraph on Hyperjinx Tricycle, I slightly adjusted the wording to make it clear that it is a collaborative music project with Daniel Johnston and Jack Medicine, using the existing Important Records citation.
  • The “Designer toys” section has been retitled “Designer toys and fashion” and lightly copyedited to avoid repetitive use of “collaboration”. A short paragraph has been added at the end summarizing English’s POPaganda imagery in fashion/footwear projects, specifically Kidrobot’s POPaganda toy line and Nike’s KD 14 “Ron English 1” release, drawing on sources that were already cited in the lead.

If anyone has concerns about these changes or sees better ways to organise the material, please comment here and we can adjust further. SusanFlorez (talk) 12:51, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of linked exhibition list

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I have created the page "List of exhibitions by Ron English" to house the full chronology of the artist’s solo and group exhibitions, with sourcing and detailed notes. The main article now includes a hatnote in the Exhibitions section pointing readers to the dedicated list for clarity and to keep the lead and career sections from becoming overly long.

A direct link to the list has also been added at the bottom of the article for easier navigation. The list is fully referenced and follows Wikipedia’s guidelines for stand-alone lists. Further improvements, formatting updates, and additional sourcing can be made on the list page as needed. SusanFlorez (talk) 00:00, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

COI tag (November 2025)

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Heavily edited by SPA's; contains promotional tone and puffery Netherzone (talk) 20:41, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Editor Susan Florez has disclosed their COI, and should stop editing the article directly, and read WP:COI. Netherzone (talk) 12:52, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up needed of advertorial tone, promotional wording, puffery, ref-bombing, etc.

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Article is in need of extensive clean up of advertorial and promotional tone and wording per WP:NOTPROMOTION. It contains a substantial amount of ref-bombing WP:REFBOMB, trivial detail, and puffery. Netherzone (talk) 13:08, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did some clean up, removing redundancy, several low-quality blog sources, or sales sites used as sources, advertorial and promotional tone, added a section for education, and did some formatting. The article would benefit from more clean up, and it is still massively ref-bombed with 90 sources and 10 duplicate sources. Some claims have as many as 5 citations. Netherzone (talk) 18:40, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "Join Ron English's "Sugar Circus"". Shenzhen Government Online. Retrieved 2025-11-07.