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This article was nominated for deletion on 23 November 2024. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Lucifer Morningstar (Hazbin Hotel) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 4 March 2024 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 29 March 2024 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Vaggie was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 2 April 2024 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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last name for blitz

i added blitzos last name multiple times stop removing the last name Crazzed GamerrYT (talk) 03:51, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Buckzo" was never confirmed to be Cash Buckzo's last name, so it's inaccurate to say it's Blitzo's last name. Blubewwy (talk) 04:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m pretty sure it’s in an old livestream of Vivziepop’s Maria Lightwood-Chase (talk) 16:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 August 2025

It has been proposed in this section that List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters be renamed and moved to Characters of the Hellaverse. A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters → Characters of the Hellaverse – The Hellaverse is the official name of the shared universe and media franchise^[1] and is also used by enough reliable sources.^[2][3] This is also WP:CONSISTENT with other character list pages about shared universes whose title contains the suffix "-verse" (e.g. Characters of the DC Extended Universe and Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe) Cacophonic peace (talk) 00:50, 11 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 12:42, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

1. HELLAVERSE UPDATE. YouTube. 25 April 2025. Retrieved 11 August 2025.
2. Herndon, Alise. "Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss Hellaverse Explained: How The Shows Are Connected". Screen Rant. Retrieved 11 August 2025.
3. Hunt, Hannah; Nemiroff, Perri. "The Hellaverse Crew Tease "So Many More Factors" to the 'Hazbin Hotel' and 'Helluva Boss' Crossover — Here's What You Can Expect!". Collider. Retrieved 11 August 2025.

Personally, I feel it should be kept as is. "Hellaverse" is such an obscure name for the shared franchise and only fans of the show call it that. It will be much easier to understand and find for general audiences who only need a base understanding of the show, which is what the article provides. Blubewwy (talk) 01:08, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any evidence that "Hellaverse" is an obscure name? Ever since the official Spindlehorse used the name in the August update, and even before said update, there have been a decent amount of reliable sources using the term. Cacophonic peace (talk) 01:13, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose First of all, moving it to a non-list name is blatantly against policy. It's clearly and obviously a list, so I'd like to hear the rationale for changing it. The name it should be moved to, if it is moved, is List of Hellaverse characters. Secondly, there is no page on the "Hellaverse", so it would confuse readers. If it becomes notable enough for a standalone article on the fictional universe, I would have no qualms at that point. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:26, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  The rationale as I have stated in the OP, is that it is consistent with the list pages Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Characters of the DC Extended Universe. As for Hellaverse not having a page yet (1) there is currently a draft for it (2) if enough reliable sources are now referring to the shared universe and media franchise as "Hellaverse", I do not think said page needs to be made first in order to rename the universe to what it is commonly known as. Cacophonic peace (talk) 08:37, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  "The rationale as I have stated in the OP, is that it is consistent with the list pages Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe..."

  But it's not. Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is clearly NOT a list, it's a prose article with links to actual lists, which are properly named "List of..."

  If there's a draft for it, neat. Get it approved before doing this request then - although it is clearly FAR from demonstrating it is notable, which does not bode well. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:39, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is clearly NOT a list,It's a prose article with links to actual lists, which are properly named "List of..."

  As shown with its split sections Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: A–L and Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: M–Z, the original page of Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe was a list, it just had to be split off due to WP:SIZE. And, as can be clearly seen with the names of the split sections, the titles use "Characters of the" not "List of characters in the". Cacophonic peace (talk) 08:46, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Well, I would argue that the pages are improperly named, then. They should be List of Marvel Cinematic Universe characters: A–L, etc., as they are a textbook list without any prose. They are no different from an article like List of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. characters - in fact, even less indepth. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:33, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Then by all means, request a page move for the MCU Character lists to be moved to "List of..." if you believe they fit the criteria better. You also could boldly move it to the title you deem more correct. Cacophonic peace (talk) 09:46, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I might or might not, but there are plenty of examples of lists similar to that that are named list, including literally every other list link on the page of Characters of the MCU. Cherry picking the single one that is different is not convincing. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:48, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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