Talk:Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran World Tour
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New venues
[edit]It seems the Bogota concert on November 1 has been moved to Vive Claro and stadiums for the last three shows have been added via Shakira's official website.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.7.62.53 (talk) 08:12, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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Shows Revenues
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all north america shows have been reported. They can be found on pollstar, billboard or touringdata.
https://touringdata.org/2025/01/19/shakira-las-mujeres-ya-no-lloran-tour/ https://x.com/ShakOnChart/status/1942363169852142003 https://x.com/ShakOnChart/status/1942373123866657031 Lmarques13 (talk) 01:42, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Not done Touring Data is not a reliable source, and the mid-year report from Billboard is already included. livelikemusic (TALK!) 01:58, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- What would be considered a reliable source? Only billboard or PollStar?
- All the revenue posted on touring data matches what has been posted on PollStar, however because it is a paid platform we rely on TD and such accounts to have access to those numbers. Lmarques13 (talk) 02:13, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, we do rely on Billboard and/or Pollstar. Social media isn't acceptable, either. Touring Data is not reliable, per WP:SPS and WP:USERG; both Billboard and Pollstar are industry standard, respectable publications. livelikemusic (TALK!) 02:20, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- But with Pollstar not being a public platform, don't we rely on what people post from their reports? as in touring data? If there's another way other than that, I apologise.
- As for pollstar, even without the numbers being public, we can see that all shows have been reported by the number of reports.
- https://www.pollstar.com/artists/shakira-9762 Lmarques13 (talk) 02:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, we do rely on Billboard and/or Pollstar. Social media isn't acceptable, either. Touring Data is not reliable, per WP:SPS and WP:USERG; both Billboard and Pollstar are industry standard, respectable publications. livelikemusic (TALK!) 02:20, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Once again: Touring Data is not reliable. We rely on Billboard and Pollstar. livelikemusic (TALK!) 02:41, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- And pollstar has reported all the shows. It's on the link I provided on my past comment. Lmarques13 (talk) 02:46, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Once again: Touring Data is not reliable. We rely on Billboard and Pollstar. livelikemusic (TALK!) 02:41, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- And again, as you yourself noted, it is a paid platform, so without someone having access, it cannot be reported on. livelikemusic (TALK!) 03:06, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- and once again I ask, if someone has had access to it, like you just sugested, why doesn't it count? What is the way of knowing the numbers if we can only rely on billboard or pollstar and both are often behind paywalls? Lmarques13 (talk) 03:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- And again, as you yourself noted, it is a paid platform, so without someone having access, it cannot be reported on. livelikemusic (TALK!) 03:06, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Because Touring Data/social media is not reliable on Wikipedia per the previously-linked pages above. It's that simple. Period. That's not going to change. Period. Point blank. This isn't a fan page; if you want to use those websites, go to Fandom. They're acceptable there. Not here on an online encyclopedia, which relies on reliable sources, which again, both Billboard and Pollstar are. livelikemusic (TALK!) 03:20, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
New dates
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The dates and venues for South America can all be found on the oficial Shakira website (https://www.shakira.com/tour-hub/) including Lima,Peru in November 18, Asunción, Paraguay in November 28 and a second show in Buenos Aires, Argentina in December 9. Lmarques13 (talk) 21:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
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RH Knowledge (talk) 22:52, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
June 28, 2025: 47,058 / 47,058 $6,667,413 (Allegiant Stadium)
Not done No source provided. livelikemusic (TALK!) 23:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
Cali Second Show and Global Citizen Festival
[edit]I’ve added the second Paraguay date to the list, but unfortunately I currently can’t find any news reports on the second Cali show that was announced a few days ago. Has anyone seen anything about it to reference? I’ve also not added the Global Citizen Festival date in NYC on September 27th yet, since I don’t know as of currently whether it’ll be officially part of the tour (like Sueños Festival in Chicago) or it’s own, separate, thing. Verdammter (talk) 12:33, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Per Los 40, the concert on September 27, 2025, at the Global Citizen Festival is not part of the tour. Also, please pay attention to MOS:AMP and MOS:DATEFORMAT for future editing. Also, a Google search right this minute brought up seven-plus citations (all reliable, by the way) regarding Shakira's headlining of the festival. livelikemusic (TALK!) 14:42, 24 July 2025 (UTC)