Talk:Han Lin'er

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Passed. Векочел (talk) 00:46, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Min968 (talk · contribs) 14:20, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Векочел (talk · contribs) 18:34, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

This is a fairly short article, so I expect little analysis of the actual biographical information about the subject, and I will be focusing on the source review. However, there are two concerns that I have.

  • Firstly, the infobox lists his mother as a woman with the surname Yang. Are there any sources that confirm that surname? *Secondly, the introduction section goes into little detail about Han Lin'er's early life but focuses more on the White Lotus rebellions and his father, Han Shantong. Do the sources say anything at all about his early life?
    • Added a source about Han Lin'er's mother. As for information about Han's early life, there are almost no documents mentioning it, only referring to the period after he was placed on the throne by Liu Futong.

Source review

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For each of the following sources, please provide an excerpt from the pages listed.

  • Source 1, Goodrich & Fang (1976), p. 485, and Source 2, Mote (1988), p. 39. The White Lotus sect played a significant role in promoting this belief in northern China. One of its leaders, Han Shantong, declared himself to be the King of Light in the early 1350s. Han Shantong came from a family of hereditary sect leaders in Luancheng, a region in northeastern Hubei. His grandfather had been exiled to Yongnian in the southern part of the province.
  • Source 4, Goodrich & Fang (1976), p. 486. The rebels declared their goal to restore the Song dynasty, but in practice, they mainly recited sutras to the people and engaged in local fighting, which exhausted them.
    • Although the mob' banners proclaimed their intent to march upon the Yuan capital of Ta-tu (Peking) and restore the Sung empire, the rebels were content at this stage with burning, pillaging, murdering local officials, and chanting sutras en masse.
  • Source 7, Dreyer (1988), pp. 68–70. In 1355, a group of Guo Zixing's former rebels, based in Hezhou, formed an alliance with Du Zundao and surrendered to the Song state in order to protect themselves from attacks by other groups. Guo Zixing's son-in-law, Zhu Yuanzhang, was confirmed as the third in command. In the summer of 1355, they crossed the Yangtze River and the following year, under Zhu Yuanzhang's leadership, they successfully captured Nanjing and expanded their influence further south.
  • Source 10, Goodrich & Fang (1976), pp. 486–487. In 1357, Mao Gui's army was unable to hold out in his home province of Liaodong.
    • During 1357, the rebel leader Mao Gui, sought cut in his native area of Liaotung, launched a seaborne invasion of the Shantung peninsula and occupied it as far west as the Grand Canal.
  • Source 16, Mote (1988), p. 51. Han Lin'er was saved by the arrival of Zhu Yuanzhang's army. Despite being embroiled in a war with Chen Youliang, Zhu took a risky decision to send his main forces north to Anfeng. This decision was met with opposition from Confucian scholar and leading government official Liu Ji.
    • Chu's final break with the Red Turban Sung dynasty was delayed much longer than his scholar-advisers would have preferred. In 1363 Chu was deeply involved in the upcoming final campaign against his strongest rival, Ch'en Yu-liang. In February his enemy from the other direction, Chang Shih-ch'eng, sent an expeditionary force to attack An-feng in western Anhwei. This place was headquarters for Han Lin-erh and the Sung regime's mastermind, Liu Fu-t'ung. It was a double embarrassment to Chu, the loyal protector of that last remnant of northern Red Turban authority, because at that moment he was also seriously overextended. Against the stern advice of Liu Chi (1311—75), his principal scholar-adviser on strategy and statecraft, he nonetheless detached a portion of his field command and led it in person (with Hsu Ta being sent ahead to conduct the actual battles) to rescue Han Lin-erh. According to most accounts, Liu Fu-t'ung was captured by Chang's army and killed. Chu then had to move the Sung court of the Young Prince of Radiance to Ch'u-chou, across the Yangtze west of Nanking, where the by now militarily insignificant Red Turban court could continue to exist in safety. The risks of this diversion were very great; it was an error of his enemies not to have taken greater advantage of it. Nonetheless, the move probably was necessary to ensure the commitment of Chu's military leaders while he was under challenge from the southern Red Turbans. Even his most intimate companions from his youthful days appear to have felt the necessity of defending their source of legitimacy. Chu continued to use the Sung state's Dragon Phoenix reign period as his official calendar until Han Lin-erh was drowned in a crossing of the Yangtze in January 1367, the last lunar month of the previous year by the Chinese calendar.
  • Source 19, Dreyer (1982), pp. 73–74. By 1371, [Zhu Yuanzhang] had successfully unified most of China under his rule.

Векочел (talk) 18:34, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Векочел Done. Min968 (talk) 12:57, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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