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If you think it is a duplicate, you haven't read the page history correctly. The page contents only selectively contains material on concentration camps specifically, expanded with contents from the corresponding dedicated Britannica page, and further expanded by other editors. There is no grounds to collectively mass revert the work of multiple editors to delete a clearly notable subject. Iskandar323 (talk) 11:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure I have read the page history correctly, and the link shows that most of the content was copied from Internment. It has been longstanding precedent that concentration camps fall under the purview of the Internment article and there have been many discussions on that talk page which have confirmed it. Indeed, you were part of those discussions on that page when you proposed to move it to Concentration Camp. If you feel the need to make concentration camps be a separate page with different reasoning, then the correct course of action is to propose a split on Internment and that can be discussed there. However, given that as a redirect page it is not usually watched, there was no discussion about recreating this page. Moreover, there are grounds for concentration camp and Internment to be the same page as Internment contextualizes the different uses of concentration camp which this page does not do, doing a disservice to the various uses of the term. The fact that this page has been expanded and that would require moving the new edits to Internment is not a reason for this page to remain as it is. Lengua (talk) 19:36, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are different pages because they are different topics. In the RM, aside from there being a consensus to not move, the widespread opinion that the topics should be split way also voiced, so that is what has been enacted – entirely consistent with the RM. The internment page has not been moved; concentration camp (a different scope) has been created separately. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Italicized subheading, "Not to be confused with Extermination camp."
This page was recently changed from a redirect (which is good), but the recently added subheading is improper. A better italicized subheading would be: This article is about the usage and history of the term "concentration camp."
It's a fact that the definition has changed over time. Prior to 1933, the term was presumably used infrequently. Throughout WWII, the term was used in public with the original meaning. However, Extermination was not discussed in public. Thus, when the true nature of Auschwitz I and II was made known in 1945, it became the exemplar of a concentration camp. Mackerm (talk) 07:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But there is still a difference. The term concentration camp doesn't automatically equate with extermination, whether contemporary or historically. Whilst extermination camps (AKA killing centres) are a sub-category of concentration camps, not all concentration camps are extermination camps (e.g. Dachau). They are not entirely synonymous. Most Nazi concentration camps were not extermination camps (the former vastly outnumbered the latter) and Nazi extermination camps had few long-term prisoners, being little more than places of mass murder on an assembly-line basis (e.g. Treblinka). In fact, the Nazis established many types of concentration camps (transit, labour, extermination, POW, etc), although some evolved over time. Auschwitz was an exception in that it had multiple uses, a result of changing Nazi priorities. Many states have used variations of concentration camps, particularly from the nineteenth century onwards, and so there were plenty of historical models for the Nazis to base theirs on (which start appearing in Germany during the early months of Nazi rule). But extermination camps were something new and unique, which the Nazis had to invent with inspiration from various preceding initiatives (Aktion T4, gas vans, camp infrastructures, using Zyklon-B as a pesticide, etc). 2A0A:EF40:425:D901:B31B:5034:54A:3AEE (talk) 20:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is no one gong to mention the current concentration camps being set up all over the USA by Geo Group private prison corporation, and “Alligator Alcatraz “
by definition, these are concentration camps. They have NO regular rule of law- (Florida Alligator can’t get a federal court to decide who has jurisdiction because it’s in the middle of a swamp) , people are being kidnapped and placed there based on color of skin, and accents, by masked, armed men without warrants.
I...yeah. My only thought would be we may only have a relatively small volume of quality scholarship on the American camps, analyzing and characterizing them as such as of yet, but I would expect that to change if it's presently an issue. Remsense 🌈 论00:48, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"without warrants" It is the United States, which has a long history of arrests without warrants under the excuse of the "exigent circumstance". "Emergency aid doctrine is an exception to the Fourth Amendment, allowing warrantless entry to premises if exigent circumstances make it necessary.[1] A number of exceptions are classified under the general heading of criminal enforcement: where evidence of a suspected crime is in danger of being lost; where the police officers are in hot pursuit; where there is a probability that a suspect will flee before a warrant can be obtained; where a person is in need of assistance; where entry is required to prevent harm to a person.[2] In deciding whether such entry was legal, courts will consider whether a reasonable and prudent person would have considered there was need to make an immediate entry.[3]" The doctrine has been used as an excuse for officers to enter someone's residence at all times, or to arrest suspects on mere suspicion that they were involved in a crime. A couple of years ago, I was reading news articles on American officers entering houses without warrants and roughing up people with visible injuries (such as crutches) on the hunch that they were harboring fugitives. Dimadick (talk) 01:28, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just because the US has a controversial history with the exigent circumstances defense doesn't suddenly mean it's exempt from being criticized for making warantless arrests. America is quite possibly the only nation on Wikipedia that is afforded such an immense level of lee-way when it comes to fact-reporting. If anything this reinforces OP's point. 107.15.19.46 (talk) 03:33, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not without strong sourcing supporting the label. This was debated on the Alligator Alcatraz article and so far the has been no consensus to label it as such. — Czello(music)06:31, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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