Draft talk:Impact of the September 11 attacks on entertainment

Was the point to create a new article or re-write the existing list?

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I'm responding in general to the comment in the AFC template:

And then in reviewing the RM discussion and the mainspace article, I get the sense this was more of a {{prose}} issue? Would having both this and the list article not be redundant? If I were to see this draft and not have examined the prior discussion, I think I would have declined with the merge or exists reasoning, pointing to the aforementioned article.

I'm also reading the comment "You should probably rewrite the article first in a draft if you mean to change its scope to this extent." by Zxcvbnm to suggest that rather than duplicate the mainspace article, the article writing be fleshed out and then rewritten.

I'm going to courtesy ping the previous discussion's attendees for further discussion: @MrPersonHumanGuy, TarnishedPath, Nathannah, Station1, DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered, Skynxnex, Svartner, GoneIn60, Zxcvbnm, and Pppery.

As an AFC reviewer and frequent user of the maintenance tag {{prose}} I'm seeing the benefits of this draft replacing the contents of the list. I say that because I see the varied use of prose and bulleted points as it exists now in the mainspace. I also hesitate to suggest outright to the drafter that this be done BOLDly because of the pre-existing discussion on the matter. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 14:25, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Although I came across your message over an hour ago, I still haven't received an alert that says "Bobby Cohn mentioned you at Draft talk:Impact of the September 11 attacks on entertainment", so I assume the ping function or the alert thingy might not be working today for some unknown reason. If other users aren't being notified of your ping either, then you might want to use {{please see}} on their talk pages just in case.
P.S. Rewriting the list into prose (and changing the title accordingly) would be a better idea than creating a new article alright. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 17:30, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've decided to send {{please see}} messages to all the users you pinged. Linking to someone's user page in a message is usually supposed to cause that user to receive an alert that says you mentioned them somewhere, but if I've never received such an alert, then I assume none of the others have received that alert either, which I think could explain the lack of subsequent responses. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 10:35, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – There is more than one way to improve the situation. You can go the route of Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on television, combining the lists and prose all into one article, which can make for a really long, convoluted article. The other option, which I would prefer, would be to create a new article dedicated to coverage of the topic in prose form. It may use examples sparingly to illustrate various points, but the current list article is retained for the purpose of a more comprehensive list (which many editors will still find useful). Move a majority of its prose over to the new article that was created. This would then free up the list to simply be a list with minimal prose. Both articles will then serve their purpose well, and readers can find what they're looking for quickly. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:43, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I have two different things to say:
    • The closest thing there is to a list equivalent of the COVID-19 television article is List of American television series impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic, which focuses specifically on one country. However, it does give me the idea to turn some of the bulleted lists at the List of entertainment affected article into tables.
    • The Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on... articles were what motivated me to try to get the 9/11 list article's title changed in the first place; hence my proposed title(s) following the format of "Impact of [HISTORICAL CRISIS] on so-and-so".
    Whether this prose version exists alongside or in place of its list counterpart, either way is fine. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 23:41, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]