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Family changes in the World Spider Catalog

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I recently set about updating the genus and species counts in the table at Spider taxonomy#Table of families, and discovered some changes to families made by the World Spider Catalog that were not reflected in our articles. I've created:

  • Cicurinidae – the family has one genus (Brommella) transferred from Dictynidae and two (Chorizomma and Cicurina) from Hahniidae (plus one new genus).
  • Macrobunidae – it was formerly a subfamily of Amaurobiidae, so the genera have been transferred from that family.

I think I've adjusted the relevant articles on Dictynidae, Hahniidae and Amaurobiidae, but it's hard to be sure because of the overlapping lists of genera and species.

Another change is that the World Spider Catalog now merges Heptathelidae into Liphistiidae. If you look here it says this decision was taken "by majority vote of the WSC boards", suggesting it's not entirely clear cut. Should we follow the WSC? Peter coxhead (talk) 15:56, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reading the introduction of Wei et al 2023 it seems WSC rejected the merger proposal in 2023 and have now revisited the decision, which seems to be based on age of divergence rather than phylogenetic relationship. The Heptathelidae article could be moved and treated as a subfamily article, even though WSC don't use subfamilies.  —  Jts1882 | talk  09:30, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it might be that WSC made the split and reversed their decision. According to Breitling (2022), the WSC, acting as "the self-appointed arbiter on taxonomic controversies in araneology", accepted Li et al (2022)'s "unexplained decision [to split] immediately and without discussion". Presumably this is why they put it to a vote.  —  Jts1882 | talk  09:38, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Accepted name for Draft:Lehtinelagia prasina

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Another editor has submitted Draft:Lehtinelagia prasina. I think that the correct name is Tharrhalea prasina (L. Koch, 1876), according to the World Spider Catalog https://wsc.nmbe.ch/species/40665 , but if the draft uses an unaccepted name, there might be other problems that I don't have the expertise to catch. Could somebody please take a look at the draft? Лисан аль-Гаиб (talk) 04:06, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spider identification

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Identification spider Plantfan (talk) 09:23, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, i launched a talk on https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3ASpider_sp._in_Bakamuna%2C_Sri_Lanka.jpg#What_spider_is_this to discuss what spider is on the picture. 🌿Plantfan (talk) 09:23, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New pages

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New pages on spiders Plantfan (talk) 08:32, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I made a new page called Belisana junkoae. Plantfan (talk) 08:32, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pholcus species

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Hello, when adding Pholcus species to articles, please add it to List of Pholcidae genera and species#Pholcus. Thanks. Plantfan (talk) 05:30, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles like these, i.e. lists of species, should be deleted. They are a relic from the early history of this project. There is no reason now not to keep to the usual hierarchical pattern: family articles have a list of genera, genus article have a list of species. Separate genus list articles and separate species list articles are only used if there are so many genera or species that they would unbalance a family or genus article. Duplication and hence redundancy is always bad. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:48, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Plantfan (talk) 13:04, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, i would like to complete the list of Pholcus species on the article. Plantfan (talk) 16:21, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I created probably most of these around 2006, and I agree (that redundancy is bad here) :) I did a lot of work on the South African spider section in the last weeks, and I found updating these species lists a hassle. By the way, I've started collapsing long species lists in articles, and sometimes adding a section of species that actually have articles above that. Sarefo (talk) 05:25, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]