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Eurovision Fun

There is a discussion over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Song_Contests/Sources#Eurovision_Fun on blacklisting Eurovision Fun — IмSтevan ^talk 16:06, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Online broadcasts

I'm constantly confused by this, but are we counting broadcasts via broadcasters' official platforms as separate ones? For example, the contest is broadcast on RTS Planeta, but RTS Planeta is simply a platform from which you access RTS 1 or RTS Svet to watch the broadcast, so should we even be listing that? — IмSтevan ^talk 09:08, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only if there is something different from the main broadcast. I mean:

- If the broadcast in the platform is simply the simulcast of the main broadcast, it is not needed to treat it as different. It is the same broadcast of the same television channel, only by a different broadcasting medium.

- If the broadcast in the platform is different from the main broadcast, because it has different commentators, has comment in a different language, has sing language interpretation, etc., yes, we treat it separately. Ferclopedio (talk) 11:21, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ferclopedio sums up my thoughts pretty well on this; if there is something demonstrably different on offer on an online platform to what is provided through terrestrial channels, e.g. different commentary options, then yes this should be included, but there's no point in including online platforms just for the sake of it if the offering is exactly the same as terrestrial. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:38, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Latvia

The flag of Latvia's current standardisation started on 1 January 2019, however, we are applying the current standard to the contests prior to 2019. Prior to 2019, the only flag used was the textile version. I have changed the flag on the 2018 article. Can somebody use a bot to fix this issue in articles regarding contests between 2000 and 2017? — IмSтevan ^talk 11:26, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done in the ESC and JESC contests. Can you check if I've missed any?

Doing in the ESC country in year Ferclopedio (talk) 12:21, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done in ESC and JESC country in year. And EYD, EYM and choir contest. Ferclopedio (talk) 13:48, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! — IмSтevan ^talk 13:50, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

This guy has been vandalizing JESC articles non stop. Is there a way to ban him from editing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/102.119.38.253 AdamantiosK (talk) 17:36, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah somebody please restrict this IP — IмSтevan ^talk 04:32, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Nel blu, dipinto di blu (song)#Requested move 21 October 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nel blu, dipinto di blu (song)#Requested move 21 October 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --pro-anti-air ––>(talk)<–– 21:15, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of France

@Ferclopedio: Could you possibly also edit the flag of France on articles from 1975 until 2019 (and esc 2020) to be the lighter version of the flag?
France — IмSтevan ^talk 19:29, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is a bit late to the game since the articles have been changed already, but for me personally this is going a little bit too far for the sake of "accuracy". The law has changed multiple times since Latvia regained its independence, and so there are various different shades which have at different times been considered the "correct" colour. I can let this one slide for now, however I strongly oppose making any changes to the French flags post-creation of the Fifth French Republic. As is stated on the Flag of France article, both the lighter and darker versions of the flag were used simultaneously and interchangeably, so there is no "correct" version; just because Macron decided to use the darker version at the Elysée from 2020 onwards doesn't make it more "official". Sims2aholic8 (talk) 22:46, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that there are no lenghts that we shouldn't be going to in order to use correct flags. When talking about Latvia, the shade used today on the project was formalised in 2019, meaning it didn't exist prior, so why should it be used prior? When talking about France, the file used in the infobox for Flag of France article should be the reference point, and considering that it was changed in 2020, we should be adhering to that — IмSтevan ^talk 22:53, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This change would not affect the readability of the articles whatsoever, simply display the version of the flag mainly used by the state of France during the correct time periods. If both versions are correct, then surely this shouldn't be an issue? We'd also be consistent with articles such as the UEFA European Championship article series — IмSтevan ^talk 23:05, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We should use the official flag in any case.

In the case of Latvia, I agreed to make the changes because according the Flag of Latvia article, on 1 January 2019 the law that defined the non-fabric flags official color shade entered in force. Before that, since the independence, only the textile version of the flag was used. Therefore, I thought the change was appropriate, and I agreed with ImStevan. In Wikipedia (Template:Country data Latvia), we only have one representation of that textile version (pantone), and I used that.

In the case of France, the Flag of France article reads:

"Article 2 of the French constitution of 1958 states that "the national emblem is the tricolour flag, blue, white, red". No law has specified the shades of these official colours ... The blue stripe has usually been a dark navy blue; a lighter blue (and lighter red) version was introduced in 1976 by President Giscard d'Estaing ... Both versions were used from then on ... On 13 July 2020, President Macron reverted, without any statement and with no orders for other institutions to use a specific version, to the darker ... it was noted that both the darker and lighter flags have been in use for decades"

In this case I agree with Sims2aholic8. Both shades are correct and official and have been used as such. I see the use of a lighter version by president Giscard d'Estaing as a personal choice, since it was not reflected in any official order, and that didn't make it more official than the darker version. I don't know the thinking behind the decision to use the lighter version in the UEFA article in that period, and I don't see the point why we must follow them just because they use that. Therefore, in this case, I don't see a significant improvement in accuracy that justifies the effort of editing zillions of articles to use the lighter version. Sorry. Ferclopedio (talk) 10:22, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm not gonna push for it further — IмSтevan ^talk 17:01, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcasting draft

@ImStevan: @Sims2aholic8: Should this be expanded? Fort esc (talk) 18:10, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft in question

I suggested making this article and perhaps moving viewing figures there, but I think the consensus was that viewing figures should be on country by year articles. So this draft just kind of stayed there. I don't know what to do with it — IмSтevan ^talk 19:06, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]