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Updated Timurid Empire area based on academic source

Updated the area of the Timurid Empire from 4.4 million km² to 5.5 million km², based on academic data provided by the Seshat Global History Databank (https://seshatdatabank.info/data/polities/timurid_empire). This source compiles peer-reviewed scholarly research and offers a more accurate measurement. The previous figure lacked a reliable citation. BBJJKK (talk) 07:09, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for discussing improvements to Wikipedia's policy on how to form a consensus. You should post your concerns to the articles talk page, Talk:Timurid Empire. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 07:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The area of the Timurid Empire is written as 4.4 million km², but there is also evidence that it was 5.5 million km², so an administrator named Melik suggested writing it here. He doesn't believe it is 5.5 million km². To be honest, I'm new to Wikipedia myself. If possible, could you give me some guidance on where to write it? BBJJKK (talk) 07:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing they said you should find consensus, and linked to this page to explain what they meant by consensus. I see you are already discussing the matter on the articles talk page, which is the place to try and build consensus. If you and Melik can't agree then you should follow the guidance in WP:Dispute resolution, give the disagreement is between just the two of you I would suggest seeking a WP:Third opinion.
A couple of points Melik isn't an admin (neither am I), and even if they were an admin admins have no authority over content (they deal with user behaviour). -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 08:22, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the answer, I have gained some understanding. BBJJKK (talk) 08:36, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What I wanted to say was that the area of the Timurids was edited to 5.5 million km², but in the article The Largest of empires, the Timurids are still 4.4 million km², which can cause discomfort and uncertainty. Can someone correct this article The Largest Of empires to reflect the area of the Timurid Empire? Can you help? I think it's not good to be in two different positions on this issue for a long time. BBJJKK (talk) 08:57, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Someone please change this, the fact that the information is twofold will severely affect both Wikipedia's reputation and credibility. The modern and realistic area of the Timurid Empire was given by Peter Turchin and Daniel Hoyer as 5.5 million km². Moreover, Peter Turchin's sources were used a lot for Wikipedia's Empire Areas section. So you can trust this, it would be better, friends, to change the Timurid Empire to 5.5 million km² and change its position in the "List the Largest of empires" article. Please note that if you see Peter Turchin Daniel Hoyer and Seshat.Com, the unreliable Taagepera, let him first go and check the source of the areas of Macedonia and the Ottoman Empire, because there the source is taken from Peter Turchin's book "A Theory for the formation of Large empires". In short, to put an end to this confusion, I ask you to change the area of the Theuri Empire to 5.5 million km² (I also edited it with the source), and make its place in the "List The Largest Empires" article the same. BBJJKK (talk) 15:55, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doreen St. Felix

My edit on Doreen St. Felix keeps being reverted by people interested in starting an edit war with me. I believe I've adhered to edit policy. I've sourced the actual article written by St. Felix where she calls Sydney Sweeney an Aryan Princess.^[1] I sourced the actual X post Christopher Rufo made in response to it.^[2] The fact that she deleted her X is the only source that I have that didn't come directly from the horse's mouth. That I sourced by Fox News,^[3] the New York Post,^[4] the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research^[5] (article written by Rufo) & Y! Entertainment.^[6] How much more substantiating does a claim need for wikipedia to acknowledge it as fact?Johnny Spasm (talk) 21:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Responded on Talk:Doreen St. Félix. Innisfree987 (talk) 22:35, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

1. St. Félix, Doreen (August 2, 2025). "The Banal Provocation of Sydney Sweeney's Jeans". The New Yorker.
2. Rufo, Christopher F. (August 15, 2025). "This is what The New Yorker is defending, conveniently organized into four screenshots". X.
3. Hays, Gabriel (August 18, 2025). "New Yorker writer who trashed Sydney Sweeney, deletes social media after anti-White posts resurface". Fox News.
4. Zilber, Ariel (August 15, 2025). "New Yorker writer who referred to Sydney Sweeney as 'Aryan princess' deletes series of racist X posts: 'I hate white men'". New York Post.
5. Rufo, Christopher F. (August 19, 2025). "The New Yorker's Racialism Problem". Manhattan Institute for Policy Research.
6. Maheshwari, Disheeta (August 20, 2025). "Sydney Sweeney-Hating Writer Deletes Social Media After Racist Tweets". Y! Entertainment.

My edits are keep being remove in chittagongian language page even if it seems informative

Hi, I want to reach a concensus here. My edit has finally been able to have clarity, and it seems to add a good piece of information about language speakers in chittagong.Meghmollar2017 (talk) , please reach a consensus here please. I am not trying to do edit war. I have already done what it needed and my improvements in my sentences seem correct. Please, confirm me that you reached a concensus here. Thank you.C.Fred (talk) please you too reach concensus here since I cant edit in this page without you people asking me to reach a concensus. My last edited sentence seems much more better in the way i wrote it. This user is Abrarward (talk. 5 40, 21 September 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abrarward (talk • contribs)

Please see Talk:Chittagonian language. If anything, emerging consensus is that Abrarward's edits misrepresent the sources and should not be included in the article. IMO, Abrarward could benefit from some mentoring on what WP:Consensus is and how it works in Wikipedia. —C.Fred (talk) 12:58, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Abrarward. This page is for discussing improvements to the Consensus policy, rather than a place to try and reach a consensus. For article content the place to find consensus is the articles talk page, and if that fails you can read WP:Dispute resolution for advice on what to do next. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 13:28, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]