User talk:Shrubshire

Perth images

Hi, thanks for reaching out. "There needs to be discussion if substantial changes like what we're arguing over are to be made". Not necessarily. It's possible to just let things slide if you don't feel strongly either way. I added an alt image of the Bell Tower a week or so ago, but was reverted. I didn't find the user's argument very compelling (something about image alignment), but oh well. As for lighting and such, yes, it's a nice looking photo of the bridge, but the notability of the subject is more pertinent here IMO. For this reason I would favour any decent enough image of Cottesloe Beach, with the crowds and Teahouse. The one The Logical Positivist added is a classic postcard angle, really. Maybe the bridge symbolises the Elizabeth Quay redevelopment project, but it's not all that notable in an of itself. As I pointed out, nearly ten years have passed and no one has created a page for it. Several pedestrian bridges of greater length and striking design span the Yarra in Melbourne. Something like the Webb Bridge may symbolise the Docklands urban renewal project, but no one would think to add it to the Melbourne lead montage. A foot bridge would have to be very special indeed to belong in the lead. I'll ask that you let this one slide, or I can start an RfC. - PastelLilac (talk) 01:24, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My own preference would be to have an image of St Mary's Cathedral in place of the bridge. Like I said, I don't think the Elizabeth quay bridge is the most iconic either. But I dislike the boat shed image even more - it's a tacky Instagram hotspot that I'd never heard of until very recently when it started popping up occasionally on social media and only because it's photogenic, not necessarily because it's a true landmark or a historically/culturally significant place. It would be the equivalent of using the Grounds of Alexandria in the montage for Sydney. Very tacky. As for Cottesloe, I'm not entirely opposed to it but all the images of it so far are either amateurish or aren't the greatest quality, certainly not at the level of which belongs in a lead montage

An RFC is not a bad idea Shrubshire (talk) 05:46, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adelaide Images

Hi Shrubshire,

Regarding your edits to the Adelaide article, the Brookman Building does not follow MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE which clearly states that an image in an article must serve as illustrative aid to the article. While the building may have historical significance, there is not enough information associated with it in the article and on the UniSA article itself. The UniSA page simply redirects a reader to information about the University with nothing about the building itself. The AEC has become far more relevant in the recent century due to its vast number of sporting events and has served as Adelaide's hub for various global tours/performances since the 1990s, with an actual link to an article with a vast amount of information which follows what the MOS guideline states.

The image is not being used simply because of its colours or angle as you have stated, it is being used as it is a significant landmark that has extra information to back up the associated link, and provides more context beyond a face value Brookman Building image that redirects a reader to an article that bears no information about the building itself.

I have reverted it back to the AEC images again, once again, I will suggest you talk this to the Talk page of the article before making more repeated edits on the article.

Kind regards, Holden. HoldenFan1104 (talk) 12:37, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Holden

The Brookman Building is used as an illustrative representation of the University of South Australia. The building does not need its own article because it is already the university itself. In the same way that the University of Sydney's building doesn't have its own page, but yet is still used for the Sydney page to represent the institution, which is of significant cultural, academic and architectural importance to the city, in the same way that the University of South Australia (represented by the iconic Brookman Building is) is to Adelaide. The AEC is not nearly as important or iconic, culturally or architecturally. It is a performance venue, in the same way that the Qudos Bank Arena is to Sydney (you would hardly call the Qudos Bank Arena a significant landmark of Sydney). However, regardless of what we think, the obligation is on you to find a consensus on the talk page (of multiple editors) to agree to your changes, as you are the one making a change to the long-standing status quo. The Brookman Building has been used for quite a while now, if you believe a change is warranted, then it is your responsibility to convince everyone else, not the person simply trying to maintain the status quo. As such, i have reverted back to how the page originally was, as is convention here on Wikipedia. Shrubshire (talk) 16:43, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]