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Your submission at Articles for creation: St John the Baptist Church, Halesowen (September 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
• reliable
• secondary
• independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Unless this is a listed building, in which case it could be notable under WP:GEOFEAT, otherwise we need to see significant coverage of it in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and entirely independent. This draft is based on only one source, and is also quite sparsely cited.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:12, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's my first article, so I expected there to be pushback on this.

It is a Grade I listed building from c1140, so I would say it's pretty important that it has it's own page. One of the primary reasons for trying to get this published is because it is a notable absence. It's mentioned here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halesowen

But is of notable significance. Grade II listed Churches nearby have their own articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_George%27s_Church,_Edgbaston Jimseconde (talk) 15:17, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

If this really is Grade I listed, then that would make it automatically notable. Please cite some reliable evidence of this, preferably the listing record on the Historic England website directly.

Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:25, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok great. I'll keep editing this to get it in decent shape with some sources from the local library etc and it's listing page. Thanks for reviewing. Jimseconde (talk) 15:37, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a link to the listing.

I'll gradually get more references from 3 new sources in print. Once some of these are in, do I need to resubmit? Jimseconde (talk) 12:05, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you wish to continue working on this in the safety of draft space, you can do that. You will then need to resubmit it, once you're ready, otherwise no one will come around to review it. Or, given that we now have evidence of notability, you can just submit it now. Either way, up to you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:32, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jimseconde! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:12, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: St John the Baptist Church, Halesowen has been accepted

St John the Baptist Church, Halesowen, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:10, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]