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December 2024

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Information icon Hello, I'm Jeraxmoira. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, HOK (firm), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 08:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Metro areas

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Hey there! We can chat here or on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/San Antonio–Austin metroplex, but I wanted to drop you a quick message to say hi. You’re pretty new, but it looks like you’ve got a solid grasp of urban studies (I used to be into the topic, though it’s been over 10 years).

I get your point that the San Antonio–Austin metro is "unofficial" in a technical sense. But given the amount of coverage this emerging (or already established) metro area has gotten, I felt there were enough reliable sources to justify creating the article. I totally see how someone with more technical knowledge of metro areas might disagree, especially since most of the coverage comes from news articles, not academics or government sources.

On Wikipedia, we usually go by what third-party reliable sources say, and when they disagree, we try to build consensus or stick with the mainstream POV. I recognize this isn't perfect, and in fact other topics on Wikipedia like science or medical articles, have a higher threshold for sources than other articles here. Maybe we should revisit how we handle urban-related articles and push for higher standards, like requiring government confirmation. I think it would make sense for you to look into how you could bring up this discussion internally, although that may take time and may not always go your way.

Anyway, let me know if there’s anything I can help with, and welcome to Wikipedia! Morogris (✉ • ✎) 04:08, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reply, I completely understand what you're saying, my main issue with the article is the fact that someone with limited knowledge, say for example, a student working on a presentation, may utilize the Austin-San Antonio Metroplex article, and neglect to realize that there is also 2 seperate articles, after realizing that is was unlikely to be deleted or merged, I noted this in the article to provide clarity. So basically I don't want the official metropolitan area articles for each city to be crowded out by the Metroplex article. I realize there are links to each individual metro area in the Metroplex article, it just seems like a lot for a proposed but not yet formal Metroplex. Again, thank you for your detailed reply and I appreciate the welcome. Indiana2001 (talk) 04:16, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I think an internal discussion would be a great idea. I could use some help getting that started sometime in the near future if you don't mind. Indiana2001 (talk) 04:20, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added hatnotes to the San Antonio–Austin metroplex which clarify that there are two separate articles for Austin and San Antonio (with links), as well as separate articles for Greater Austin and Greater San Antonio. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:33, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’ll admit I’m not entirely sure how to begin a conversation of this magnitude, as it would require consensus and a policy change at the WikiProject level—specifically, Wikipedia:WikiProject Urban studies and planning. My advice is to spend 3 to 6 months familiarizing yourself with how the Urban Studies and Planning project operates. Take time to understand who the key contributors and admins are, read through the archives, and get a sense of the project’s norms and practices. Once you’re ready, you can open a discussion on their talk page. For what it’s worth, I personally support more stringent sourcing for urban studies. That said, I can’t guarantee the community will agree. Start thinking through your proposal and how you’ll structure your argument. For instance, pointing out that students are missing out on other metropolitan areas likely won't be convincing on its own. Instead, I’d suggest looking at successful examples from other WikiProjects, such as medical or scientific ones, where strong sourcing has clearly improved the quality of content. Use those examples to illustrate how similar changes could benefit this project. Make sure to gather a range of examples to strengthen your case. Best of luck, and I’ll see you around. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 18:57, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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