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7&6=thirteen () 15:15, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MOS Guidelines

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Hey! Greetings and thank you for helping me getting started with Wikipedia. I find it really hard to offer much to Wikipedia, especially when you're still confused with the basics. This includes MOS stuff, which I'm still not really familiar with, and more, especially with the highways. Here is also a list of the questions I have.

  • Other than WP:USRD/STDS, are there any other specific guidelines, explicit or implicit, for highways?
  • How do you find so many sources on highways since there aren't many? Do they mainly originate from a few government agencies?
  • How do you use   in a general term, other than linking highway numbers?
  • Where do you find the sources?
  • What and what not to write in highway articles?
  • How do you know if an article is prepared for GA?
  • Are there any other complaints or advices about me?
  • What do you think that I'll do or be in Wikipedia in the future, assuming that I don't quit in the middle of nowhere?
  • Will I keep asking questions in the future? (Ok, that's absolutely yes.)

I know this is a lot, but I hope to be more active in the future in the USRD dept. No pressure in answering all or any of the questions. Regards, HwyNerd Mike (tokk) 02:53, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Let's take a look at this edit:
  1. The first sentence has a measurement in it, so it uses {{convert}}. That measurement is working as an adjective, so the template has |adj=. That adjective is also a compound with the word long, so it's |adj=mid followed by |-long so that the result is " the 31.0-mile-long (49.9 km) concurrency". That's just proper grammar enabled by the template. Your changes broke that.
  2. Once the abbreviation for "U.S. Route 1/9" was given in the first sentence as "US 1/9", then it's no longer necessary to spell out every other U.S. Route with an abbreviation in parentheses on their first mentions. Not sure why you had the non-breaking space in bold in your edit, but that wouldn't be visible sin there's no difference between a bold and a regular space.
  3. I'm not sure why you removed the link to Interstate 95 in New Jersey. "I-95" isn't an abbreviation for the New Jersey Turnpike name though, so that whole edit was just odd.
  4. There was a bunch of content that was just removed without explanation further down in the paragraph. (No, "c/e" is not really an explanation.)
Now, your questions:
  1. That's the project's list of standards. There's MOS:RJL that specifically applies to highway articles' "road junction lists", aka the exit/junction list tables. WP:USSH has some content about how to name and abbreviate highways in the US in addition to its main function as a naming convention for article titles. Otherwise, the Manual of Style's provisions apply generally to all Wikipedia articles.
  2. Research. Like actually learning how to do research online and in libraries.
  3. Non-breaking spaces are used any time you don't want two entities separated by a space to fall on different lines. For highway articles, that usually only applies to the space inside the name of a highway, either the full name or abbreviated. So the space in "Interstate 95" should be a non-breaking space. This also applies to the space in front of the number in "U.S. Route 1" and "US 1". (We don't care if the line breaks between U.S. and Route, but we do between Route and 1.)
    There should also be non-breaking spaces between counts and units, so "26,500 vehicles" and other similar situations.
  4. See #2 above.
  5. What to write is easy: follow the sources. Remember the standard sections from WP:USRD/STDS as well.
    1. Route description sections will describe the route a highway takes. Include details to make it interesting, but only things you can glean from sources.
    2. History sections describe the significant changes to a highway. When was it designated? When and how was the routing changed? When was it fully paved for the first time? We don't include maintenance on it though, so you can skip over repaving projects.
    3. Future sections have to be verifiable plans by the maintaining agency. Some chamber of commerce's announcement that they think Hwy. X should become an Interstate isn't notable.
  6. You'll know if an article is prepared if you're familiar with the GA criteria and your work is near those criteria. A highway article should have a lengthy enough RD section, appropriate history and the RJL at a minimum with those sections summarized into the lead (RJL goes into the infobox) and the sections have appropriate citations, at least one per paragraph or the one for the mileposts in the RJL. You'll also know it's ready when the writing is clear and easy to read.
  7. Don't try to run before you can walk, and don't try to walk before you can crawl. It's good to aim for GA or FA, but you have to work on writing and editing skills, learn the style guidelines for a while before you can start on GAs., and if you've never done a GA yet, you just cannot jump to FA.
  8. I don't understand the question.
Imzadi 1979  03:36, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not really sure now if I'll ever get to the point where I can be proud of what I've done on Wikipedia. I'll try though. Regardless, thanks for the advice! HwyNerd Mike (tokk) 05:35, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]