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Your submission at Articles for creation: Coastal Carolina Creoles (August 7)
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Hello, GriotOfTheSwamp!
Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! qcne (talk) 15:36, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Hi Qcne,
- I’m writing to follow up on your rejection of my draft article Coastal Carolina Creoles. I understand the importance of Wikipedia’s standards, but I want to respectfully ask whether you actually reviewed the sources before labeling the submission as “AI slop” and original research. The quotes in the article—like Verrazzano’s description of the people’s complexion, Hariot’s account of the Kiwasa idol, Lederer’s observations of stone calendars, and even the Pomeiooc excavation report—are all taken directly from published, verifiable historical sources. I also cited work by scholars like Berlin, Rountree, Snyder, and others, and the archaeological section is based on research led by East Carolina University. I didn’t invent or rename any groups—these tribal names, settlement patterns, and ceremonial references are all historically documented. I simply used “Coastal Carolina Creoles” as a term to describe a well-documented Afro-Indigenous formation that shows up across colonial records, tribal oral histories, and modern ethnographic research. In fact, some of this work was informed by professors and researchers I’ve spoken to from North Carolina A&T who study this topic in-depth. If there are specific style or citation concerns, I’m happy to adjust the format or language. But dismissing this work as AI-generated, without checking the citations or historical references, undermines years of serious reading and research. I’m asking for a fair, thorough review of the sources and claims before a final decision is made. Thank you. GriotOfTheSwamp (talk) 23:18, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @GriotOfTheSwamp. I did check and your cited sources do exist, so weren't hallucinated by the AI (though please note we do not permit unpublished sources, which source "Miles, T. (2020)." is)
- But the entire draft was written by AI and so needed to be completely re-written from scratch in your own words by a human. And the majority of the draft was original research, which is prohibited on Wikipedia.
- A Wikipedia article only summarises and describes what existing, reliable, published sources state. Nothing more. Wikipedia articles do not synthesis new ideas, do not outline new research, do not propose new concepts.
- I see you've now re-written the draft and re-submitted for review. But it is still incompatible with Wikipedia: all you now have is primary source quotes with a bunch of secondary sources in the References which don't support anything in the draft.
- What is the draft trying to do? What topic are you writing about? The title is "Coastal Carolina Creoles" so the content of the draft should be the summary of multiple secondary sources (history books, archaeological journals, etc) which discuss the Coastal Carolina Creoles. qcne (talk) 09:13, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
August 2025
[edit] Hello, I'm Helpful Raccoon. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Atlantic Creole, but you didn't provide a reliable source. On Wikipedia, it's important that article content be verifiable. If you'd like to resubmit your change with a citation, your edit is archived in the page history. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. You need WP:Secondary sources that discuss this "Afro-Indigenous formation" as a whole. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:34, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Coastal Carolina Creoles (August 8)
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