User talk:Borys Banecki

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Please help me with... Hello, I made sure I wrote the article in line with Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy and neutral point of view policy and where possible added independent sources. Could another editor review and consider whether the COI banner is still needed? F-DGSi Borys Banecki (talk) 13:04, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi—the COI banner can be removed by an unaffiliated editor once they have deemed the article to conform to Wikipedia's content guidelines, namely its neutral point of view guidelines. That being said, I do have significant concerns about the article in its current state, as it does not currently demonstrate the company is "notable" enough for an article, according to the criteria listed in WP:NCORP. It currently relies exclusively on primary sources (none of which appear to be independent), which is not generally advised barring a few exceptions (see WP:PSTS). I would heavily advise that it be moved back to draftspace and for it to go through the Articles for Creation process in full. Are you okay with me moving it there for you? (I see that you moved it yourself out of draftspace where you originally created it, which is why I'm not going to do so unilaterally.)

Additionally—and this only applies for while the article is in "articlespace" (that is, not a draft), please ensure that any future edits you make to the article are done via edit requests, due to your financial conflict of interest. You can use the Edit Request Wizard to make these. Perryprog (talk) 14:08, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Feel free to move it to draftspace if you believe it is the best way.

Please note, there is no financial conflict of interest as creation of this article is not part of my role and I was never asked to do it.

Moreover, my contract with the company ends as of 30th of September 2025, so I won't be connected with it anymore in just a week.

I do understand your argument about notability. I would argue that most organizations listed on wikipedia don't meet Wikipedia:NCORP criteria.

I wrote it according to COI guidelines. However, I have no further plans to edit this article. Feel free to do with it whatever you believe is best. Borys Banecki (talk) 14:40, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying regarding your COI—I agree then that you wrote it in line with those guidelines. Since you don't have plans to further edit the article, I won't move it to draftspace as that would essentially be a death sentence for it if no other editor picked it up (drafts get "soft" deleted after six months of inactivity). And yes, most (or at least, many) organizations on Wikipedia don't meet NCORP. It's a bit of a headache, unfortunately.

Also, this is a super silly thing of me to correct (and unnecessary, but something something posterity), but I'm realizing I worded my original message poorly when I said "please ensure that any [...] due to your financial conflict of interest. While it is preferred that people with a financial conflict of interest (or often just a conflict of interest) make their edits via edit requests, it's not required which I feel like I falsely implied was the case here. Perryprog (talk) 01:36, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply and for committing your time and attention to this article.

I do appreciate your decision of letting this article stay.

I used Wikipedia many times to look up easily accessible and compacted information about my suppliers, customers, competitors, and potential employers. It has been a good source of such information and I wish it could stay this way.

I learnt about Wikipedia:NCORP policy. I understand why it was introduced and I agree with the intention.

My impression is that significant coverage point seems very strict, as most niche, private (not listed on stock exchange) companies will not by their nature have such coverage. Even if they are very impactful.

I added sources to Awards section - French government publications, inline with the spirit of the policy.

I understand if you want to leave the page with the top banner as it currently is. I do however believe that paid contributions part is overly cautious, as it's not factual. I will be able to provide more evidence for that in a few weeks after my LinkedIn page update.

Once again, thank you for your patience and commitment. Borys Banecki (talk) 10:43, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think that's a fair point. I changed it to the {{COI}} template since I do think that it could use some touchup from an uninvolved person (sorry!), and I do think it's still applicable.

And you are correct—NCORP, and the significant coverage barrier (which is slightly raised for corporations) is absolutely—and intentionally—hard to meet. There's a lot of companies and the English Wikipedia has decided that a high bar is needed to justify their inclusion. Perryprog (talk) 14:47, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]