User:Thomas Norren

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Short word about arguments

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The point of arguments should be to figure out the idea that's the closest to the objective truth, and not to convince anyone of your opinion. Arguments should be respectful and the participants should be ready to agree to disagree if they find that they are now just repeatedly going over the same ground. Also in arguments people should consider the other person's opinions completely separately of who that person is and what qualifications they have. Smart people can have dumb ideas and dumb

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Thomas Norren
— Wikipedian  —
Name
Thomas
Born
Auckland
NationalityNew Zealander / kiwi
Country New Zealand
Current locationAuckland
Time zoneGMT+12
Education and employment
UniversityUniversity of Auckland
Hobbies, interests, and beliefs
ReligionAtheist
Interests

History, languages, geo-politics, anthropology

Account statistics
Joined22 August 2021
First edit5 June 2022
Edit count3500~

people can have smart ideas.

If these aspects aren't met then the argument becomes an unproductive waste of everyone's time.

Other language accounts

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🇳🇿 Māori: https://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thomas_Norren

🇫🇷 French: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Thomas_Norren

🇸🇪 Swedish: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Användare:Thomas_Norren

🇷🇺 Russian: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Участник:Thomas_Norren

🇳🇿 Te papakupu wātea: https://mi.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Thomas_Norren

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Simple English: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thomas_Norren

Wikibooks: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Thomas_Norren?venotify=created

Links: Special:WhatLinksHere/

Global account information (languages of interest \/)
Plus Big Cyrillic Dead Germanic American Celtic Polynesian
Wikidata Russian (7/320) Kazakh (46/320) Eald Englisc (218/320) Icelandic (97/320) Atikamekw (254/320) Welsh (41/320) Hawaiian (245/320)
Wikimedia Commons Spanish (8/320) Sakha (132/320) Latin (64/320) Faroese (145/320) Nahuatl (198/320) Irish (95/320) Tongan (253/320)
Wikimedia Indonesian (22/320) Mongolian (123/320) Польꙃєватєл҄ь (280/320) Scots (107/320) Inuktitut (313/320) Cornish (183/320) Samoan (284/320)
Wikimedia meta-wiki French (5/320) Gothic (294/320) Greelandic(318/320) Scottish Gaelic (136/320) Tahitian (278/320)
Wikidictionary Cherokee (288/320) Manx (196/320) Māori (178/320)
Wiktionnaire (fr) Cree (320/320)

Articles I created

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Articles I translated

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Articles I wish to extend / translate / create

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Ka Whakamāori au

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Userboxes

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About me
This user comes from New Zealand.
This user plays Minecraft.
Wikipedian since 5 June 2022
Interests
This user loves History.
This user is interested in ancient Persia.
This user is interested in
ancient civilizations.
This user is interested in ancient Rome.

Kultur for bara mig

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The art style I like and use as influence

Cultur for bara mig
England Georgia (country) Abrehamism Iran Kurdistan Region Turkey Greece Spain Uganda Romania
Flat cap Lezginka Altar The repersianfication of Iranian languages (removal of Arabic influence) Pir Shalyar Ceremony Gurdjieff dance (trembling Dervish (ordered universe around a central ordered man. One who staggers staggers around the centre man. From Meetings with remarkable men) Constantinople Don Quixote Rolex (food)? Helmet of Coțofenești
Victorian Waistcoat (plaid?) Gandagana Prayer rug? Haft-sin Hagia Sophia Don Juan Trăiască România
Pocket watch Ecce homo Sabzeh
Trench coat or Frock coat or something inbetween Nouruz

Kanske mea bara: seeb, seer, sabzeh, somagh, sekeh, painted tokhmemorgh, ayeeneh, flameless candle? + mabinogion, cennin?, pannas?

Khāne-takānī
Nouruz gatherings (friends + family)
Sultan Qalbam - Ahmad Zahir (maybe try to find the original Persian version)
Soltan qalbam - Aref

Kultur for mina plantau

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Italik = behova inte vet storien hel men musta vet va de'r. (Italik - suggestiv. Inte Italik - musta)

Kankshe film natten valje Fredag. Ok bara Fredagau. En film eller tvor episodau (aksept clifhanggau, nar det fins en clifhang'r mea partau det helt'r en episod).

Kultur for mina plantau
England New Zealand Wales Russia Singles Greece 🐗 Cornwall 𐌓𐌀𐌔𐌄𐌍𐌍𐌀 Scotland Israel France Germany Japan Brittany Sweden ✅ Completed

Mythology

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Waiata

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The Mabinogion The Tale of Tsar Saltan (1984 film) China Riddle of the Sphinx 🏛️Bologna Bro Goth agan Tasow 🏛️Arezzo The Skye Boat Song Noah's Ark Frère Jaques Little Red Riding Hood Spirited Away Bro Gozh ma Zadoù Varulven Denmark
Robin Hood Rangitoto Māori Song King Arthur The Tale of Tsar Saltan Mulan? Polyphemus Vercingetorix Jack and the Beanstalk Civita di Bagnoregio Loch Ness (film) Finding in the Temple Au Clair de la Lune Hansel and Gretel Ponyo Mont-Saint-Michel Herr Mannelig The Princess and the Pea
Superman Tutira Mai Ngā Iwi Suo Gân? Baba Yaga Spain Golden Fleece Parisii Camborne Hill song (Camborne) Tinia Donald McGillavry Crossing the Red Sea Sur le pont d'Avignon Cinderella Howl's Moving Castle (film) National Day - 1 August (Feast of Saint Erwann) Vallåt The Ugly Duckling
Puss in Boots Poi e Phrases from the Welsh language revitisisation movement (from Duolingo): dw i'n hoffi coffi, pannas. The Tale About Baba-Yaga The Alchemist Atlas 🏛️Burdigala Trevithick Day (in Camborne) 🏛️Perugia Johnny Cope Jonah and the Whale The Hunchback of Notre Dame Rumpelstiltskin Castle in the Sky Gouel Breizh - biggest national celebration (yearly during the week of the 19th of May: the day Saint Yves died.) 🏛️Ribe - Ribe Cathedral
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Pokarekare Ana Culhwch and Olwen? Pavel Bazhov Iraq Daedalus and Icarus Commentarii de Bello Gallico (Gallic Wars) Minack Theatre Liber Linteus Robert Burns The Good Samaritan The Adventures of Tintin Rapunzel Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (film) Kentoc'h mervel eget bezañ saotret / Potius mori quam fœdari (death before dishonour) Jelling stones - Harald Bluetooth
Pocahontas E Rere Taku Poi Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau Moscow Nights The Epic of Gilgamesh Troy Oppidum St Michael's Mount Emperor Claudius (last fluent speaker of Etruscan) To a Mouse Creation Myth Canelé Eine kleine Nachtmusik 🐑Cumbria
Goldilocks and the Three Bears One Day a Taniwha Yma o Hyd Maslenitsa Norway The Boy Who Cried Wolf Asterix and Obelix Tintagel Castle 🏛️Florence Auld Lang Syne Adam and Eve Gâteau des rois Yan tan tethera
The Three Little Pigs Oma Rāpeti Cymru am Beth Kokoshnik Three Billy Goats Gruff Medusa Veneti Napoleonic Mounument to the last speaker of Cornish (Dolly Pentreath) Aléria John Barleycorn Tower of Babel 🏛️Carlisle
David and Goliath Kina Kina I'r Gad Sarafan Egypt Arachne Alesia (city)Battle of Alesia) at Alise-Sainte-Reine Exeter Bolsena Penrith
The Gingerbread Man Manu iti? Cŵn Annwn? Kosovorotka Isis and Osiris Minotaur Helvetii Truro Siena Keswick

Books

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Mā is white Magi Thatcher song by Dafydd Iwan Rubashka AustraliaWakakabia Odysseus' Bow Belgae Gwennap Pit Alauna (Maryport)
Daughter of Smoke and Bone Haere Mai, Everything is Ka Pai!

Tribes

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Kulich magpie The Tortoise and the Hare Noviomagus Lake District National Park
Eragon AEIOU Gododdin - Y Gododdin, Catterick Пасха (trianglar tvorog) Chubut Province Barrow-in-Furness & Sodor (fictional island)
Strange the Dreamer Rā Whānau ki a koe Dumnonia - Dumnonii "Христос Воскресе"

"Воистину Воскресе"

Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau Sellafield
The Hobbit & LOTR Hine E Hine? Parisii Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces Skáney Hen Ogledd
Harry Potter Haka Iceni - Boudica, Venta Icenorum Njörðr Zimbabwe
Historia Regum Britanniae Poi Cantiaci Serbia Harare
A Christmas Carole

Dress

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Brigantes Church of Saint Sava Shona
Treasure Island? Tā moko Corieltauvi Italy Great Zimbabwe
Sherlock Holmes Heru

Civitas

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Pinocchio Zimbabwe Bird

Children's Stories

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Pounamu Bath - Aquae Sulis, Bath Gorgon
Winnie-the-Pooh

Plants

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Brough
The Jumblies Toetoe Chester
'Twas the Night Before Christmas? harakeke Chichester
Charlotte's Web Pīngao Cirencester
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory Koru Colchester
The Little Yellow Digger Tāne Mahuta Eboracum
Where the Wild Things Are nīkau Londinium
Peter Pan puka

Modern

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Peter Rabbit ponga 🏛️Cardiff
Percy Jackson Series whekī 🏛️Swansea
Magnus Chase Series 🏛️Aberystwyth
The Very Hungry Caterpillar kauri Carmarthen - S4C
We're Going on a Bear Hunt oioi
The Gruffalo kānuka
Artemis Fowl Pōhutukawa
Hairy Maclary and Friends Kōwhai
Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Seas māhoe
The Chronicles of Narnia swan plant
The BFG

Manu

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Stuart Little? pūkeko

Children's Songs

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Mallard
Humpty Dumpty Rock dove
Baa, Baa, Black Sheep Kererū
London Bridge is Falling Down Little spotted kiwi
Doctor Foster Kiwi (bird)
For He's a Jolly Good Fellow Moa
Hickory Dickory Dock oystercatcher
Hush Little Baby dotterel
It's Raining, It's Pouring seagull
Rain Rain Go Away penguin
Mary had a Little Lamb Haast's eagle
Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary Morepork
One, Two, Buckle My Shoe Kea
There Was an Old Woman Who Lived in a Shoe Kākā
Wonky Donkey Kākāpō
This Old Man (Give a Dog a Bone) Tūī
Three Blind Mice fantail
Twinkle Twinkle Little Star Huia
Hey Diddle Diddle (The Cat and the Fiddle) sparrow
Jack and Jill

Insects

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Jack Be Nimble Monarch Butterfly
Little Bo-Peep
One, Two, Three, Four, Five (Once I Caught a Fish Alive) Tāne
Rock-a-bye Baby How Māui Slowed the Sun
The Muffin Man Te Kore, Te Po, Te Ao Marama
The Twelve Days of Christmas Ngā kete o te Wānanga (i a Tāne)
Ants Go Marching Rangi and Papa
Old MacDonald Had a Farm Hineahuone
Johnny Johnny Yes Papa Te Mate a Māui
Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer Tāne vs Rangi and Papa (How Tāne Mahuta Became a Tree)
Jingle Bells Whale Rider
Silent Night Taniwha
Do-Re-Mi Hawaiki
Major-General's Song waka hourua
Skip to My Lou Marae
Oranges and Lemons Wharenui
There's a Hole in My Bucket

Kai

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London's Burning? Kina
Lullay, mine liking? - unchristian it first Hāngī
Coventry Carol? Rēwena bread
Yankee Doodle kumera
D'ye ken John Peel (song)

Other

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Dashing Away with the Smoothing Iron Whakairo

Songs

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Taiaha
Maiden in the Moor Lay Patu
The Derby Ram Mere (weapon)
D'ye ken John Peel (song) David Lange's Oxford Union Debate
Dashing Away with the Smoothing Iron Tangihanga
The Lincolnshire Poacher Pōwhiri
Nottamun Town Rāhui
(There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover Te tapu o te kai o ngā Tohunga
The North Country Maid Waitangi Day

Children's Games

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Te Wiki o te Reo Māori
This Little Piggie Matariki
Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes Kī-o-rahi - lara
I'm a Little Teapot waka ama
Incy Wincy Spider Waka taua
The Wheels on the Bus Matariki
England Ireland Scotland Wales Inside Outside Puppy Dogs Tails Stonehenge Aotearoa
Pop Goes the Weasel
Ring-a-Ring o' Roses
Here We Go Round the Mulberry Bush
Baby Shark
The Floor is Lava
Row, Row, Row Your Boat
Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe
Five Little Monkeys
Five Green Speckled Frogs
If You're Happy and You Know It
Paper Scissors Rock
Coin flipping
Odds and evens (hand game)?
The Bare Necessities

Tongue Twisters

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She Sells Seashells
Peter Piper
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck

TV (Series and Movies)

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Dr Who
Star Trek
Dolittle (2020)
Matilda (1996 film)
Star Wars
One Hundred and One Dalmatians?
The Jungle Book (1967 film)
Mary Poppins (film)?
Back to the Future
A Bug's Life
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
The Little Mermaid (1989 film)
Fantastic Mr. Fox (film)
Deadpool (film)
Monsters vs. Aliens
How to Train Your Dragon 2
The Lego Movie
Minions and Despicable Me
Moana
Cars
Spider-Man
E.T.
Pirates of the Caribbean
WALL-E
Ice Age (franchise)
Guardians of the Galaxy
Hunt for the Wilderpeople
Advengers
Captain America
The Incredible Hunk
Iron Man
Doctor Strange
Thor
Ant Man
Black Panther
Dune
Garfield
Captain Nemo and the Underwater City
Klaus (film)
Frozen (2013 film)
Batman
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Lilo & Stitch
Kung Fu Panda
Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole
Megamind
The Land Before Time
Shrek
Brave (2012 film)
Frontier
Vikings
Norsemen
The Last Airbender
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
The Thief and the Cobbler?
Wolfwalkers?
The Jungle Book (1967 film)
The Princess Bride (film)

Plays

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Romeo and Juliet
The Pirates of Penzance
H.M.S. Pinafore
The Merry Wives of Windsor
Much Ado About Nothing
A Midsummer Night's Dream
All's Well That Ends Well
Macbeth
Hamlet
Othello

Poems

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There was an Old Person of Tring

Food

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Roast
Bacon and Eggs

Other

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Oak Apple Day
May Day

Wiki Stuff

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WikiProjects
This user is a participant in
WikiProject
NZ Māori task force
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This user is a member of WikiProject Queensland.
WikiProject Indigenous peoples of Australia - Yidiny
Data
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This user has uploaded 1 images (at last check) to Wikimedia Commons.

Portals

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Languages

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I added as level 0 the languages and scripts I wish to learn.

Scripts
Latn-N
A
This user has a native-like understanding of the Latin script.
Cyrl-5
Д
This user has full understanding of the Cyrillic script.
Grek-1
Ω
This user has a basic understanding of the Greek alphabet.
Runr-1
This user has a basic understanding of the Runes.
Arab-0
ع
This user has no understanding of the Arabic script.
Cans-0
This user has no understanding of the Canadian Aboriginal syllabics.
Cher-0
This user has no understanding of the Cherokee syllabary.
Hani-0
This user has no understanding of the Chinese characters.
Syrc-0
This user has no understanding of the Syriac alphabet.
Prti-0
𐭌
This user has no understanding of the Inscriptional Parthian.
Avst-0
This user has no understanding of the Avestan alphabet.
Java-0
This user has no understanding of the Javanese script.
Languages I wish to add as 0 but no template for them exists yet
🇦🇺 Yidinji 🇷🇺 Moksha 🇳🇿 Moriori 🇦🇺 Gubbi Gubbi) 🇺🇸 Miami-Illinois 🐗 Gaulish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Middle English 🇫🇷 Old French

Politics + Been

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Politics
This user is interested in politics.
This user does not smoke.


UBIThis user supports Universal Basic Income. No-one should starve because they fell through the cracks in the system.
This user believes the world would be a better place if everyone had access to a quality free education.
This user supports
universal health care.
This user sees nothing wrong with the human form and doesn't view it as something that needs to be hidden.
This user strongly supports
strict gun control
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This user is against involuntary military service.
This user believes that the death penalty should never be used.*
This user is opposed to online censorship.
This user believes that torture cannot be justified under any circumstances.
Been
New Zealand Italy Spain Australia France Germany Tonga Fiji New Caledonia Australia Bali Australia Turkey Qatar Croatia England Catalonia Netherlands Hong Kong
Auckland

Auckland

Florence

Florence

Seville

Seville

Brisbane

Brisbane

Paris

Paris

Zurich

SwitzerlandCanton of Zurich

Vavaʻu Suva Noumea Cairns Denpasar Melbourne

Melbourne

Istanbul Doha Split

Split, Croatia

London

London

Barcalona Amsterdam

Amsterdam

Hong Kong
Wellington

Wellington

Siena Granada

Granada

Byron Bay Lille Austria Tongatapu Nadi La Tontouta
Northland Rome

Rome

Ronda

Ronda

Gold Coast Bordeaux

Bordeaux

Neuschwanstein Castle

Bavaria

Gisborne Cinque Terre Madrid

Community of Madrid

Rotorua Pisa

Pisa

Toledo
Whakatāne Venice

Venice

Taupō

Allen Family

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Allen Family
Welsh-Kiwi family
File:Pamela Allen receiving the Australian order of merit
From left to right: Donald, Melania, Donald Jr., Barron, Ivanka, Eric, and Tiffany Trump
Chief Justice John Roberts administers the oath of office during Trump's 2017 inauguration.
Place of originNeath, Wales
Founded1782
FounderRobert Allen
Current headBen Allen
SeatAuckland, New Zealand
Historic seatDunedin then Wellington
Members
Connected members
Connected familiesClan Gordon
TraditionsSilly Hats
Motto
Iaith yw popeth

(Language is everything)
HeirloomsMary Jane Griffith's ceremonial bricklaying trowel
PropertiesHome Bush, Beach Haven, Medlands, Ngunguru

I quite like the dynasty-like family that the Trumps have built up and wish to do the same sort of thing for my family. The fact that I admire the Trumps' family history is not a statement of my political opinions towards Donald Trump. The page that I saw of the Trump family history that inspired me to do this is this one here.

Iwi (tribe) in Māoridom
Awa (river)Severn

Ancestors who have Wikipedia pages

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Copied the idea from: User:Jeremy Butler/Projects/Ancestors

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Hobbs (mum's dad's side)

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Of 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 English (Hobbs), 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Scottish (Gordon), 🏴‍☠️ Cornish (Petherick) and 🇺🇸 American (Hardy) origin (Corsham, Aberdeen, Helston and Isle of Wight). Historic job: masons. Immigrated to Hawkes Bay.

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Allen (dad's dad's side)

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Of Welsh origin (Neath, Briton Ferry). Historic job: cordwainer. Immigrated to Dunedin & Wellington.

Direct

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🇳🇿 Jim Allen (dad's dad, sculptor)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Newman (mum's mum's side)

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Of English origin (Southwark area). Historic job: representation of (Suffolk?, Boston?) farmers in London. Immigrated to Gisborne.

Indirect

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🇳🇿 Tayler Reid

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Griffiths (Dad's mum's side)

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Of English origin (Ripple + Burton-on-Trent area). Historic job: Methodist priests. Immigrated to Auckland.

Direct

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🇳🇿 Pamela Allen (dad's mum, children's book author and illustrator)

Most famous
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🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Llywelyn the Great (great x27 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Owain Gwynedd (great x29 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Hywel Dda (great x35 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Gruffudd ap Cynan (great x30 grandad)

🇮🇪 Brian Boru (great x34 grandad)

🇩🇰 Ímar (Ivar the Boneless) (great x37 grandad)

Less famous
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🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Thomas Browne (died 1460) (great x18 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Thomas FitzAlan (great x19 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Elizabeth le Despenser (great x20 grandma)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 John FitzAlan, 2nd Baron Arundel (great x20 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Elizabeth de Burghersh, 3rd Baroness Burghersh (great x21 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Bartholomew Burghersh the younger (great x22 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 John de Braose (great x26 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Iorwerth Drwyndwn (great x28 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Angharad ferch Owain (great x30 grandma)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Owain ab Edwin of Tegeingl (great x31 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Iago ab Idwal ap Meurig (great x32 grandad)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Cynan ab Iago (great x31 grandad)

🇮🇪 Lorcáin mac Lachtna (great x36 grandad)

🇮🇪 Bé Binn inion Urchadh (great x35 grandma)

🇮🇪 Sláine ingen Briain (great x33 grandma)

🇮🇪 Amlaíb mac Sitriuc (great x32 grandad)

🇮🇪 Sitriuc mac Ímair (great x36 grandad)

🇮🇪 Amlaíb Cuarán (great x34 grandad)

🇮🇪 Sigtrygg Silkbeard (Great x33 grandad)

🇩🇰 Gofraid of Lochlann (great x38 grandad)

Indirect

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🇳🇿 Carolyn Henwood (dad's mum's cousin, judge)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Ray Henwood (dad's mum's cousin's husband, actor)

🇳🇿 Dai Henwood (dad's mum's cousin's son, comedian)

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Dick Jones (dad's mum's cousin's husband's maternal grandad, rugby player)

🇳🇿 Tayler Reid

🇳🇿 Thomas

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Allen side, of English, Welsh and kiwi origin (Neath, Ripple, and Auckland). Future job: language teacher.

🇷🇺 Maria

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Simakina side, of Russian origin (Moscow, Ryazan Oblast). Future job: speech therapist.

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The Wikipedia Library

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Aerial photograph of Katherine Bay, Great Barrier Island, Auckland taken by Whites Aviation on the 13 Apr 1948.
Robert Allen in 1892.