Talk:Voiceless palatal lateral fricative
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[edit]@Señor verde I have reverted the page to Special:Diff/1311498364, which is the version of the page before you made the first of 3 reverts against me, until our dispute is resolved. Please do not edit further until we do. oklopfer (💬) 19:04, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, if you still don't believe about which is the correct symbol before "𝼆" officially inserted in IPA. You can see the older revision of this one, that wrote as "ʎ̝̊" in the link. If you can't see this on mobile, change it to the desktop mode. Thank you. Señor verde (talk) 19:11, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- The old template is not a source for “what is correct”, and this isn’t a matter of correctness, as I keep trying to explain on my talk page, but which you seem to be intent on ignoring. They are equivalent symbols, and we are using the older, phased out version to avoid collision with ascenders and descenders, and to maintain readability, in a perfectly valid ad hoc manner, that is standard to the other pages you will see on the current revisions of the Wikipedia template. Examples of this are even represented in the same link you provided, such as ⟨d̠ɹ̠˔⟩ and ⟨ʟ̠˔̊⟩. oklopfer (💬) 19:16, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Kwamikagami I need assistance here, as there is continued editing without discussion. oklopfer (💬) 02:42, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- firstly, extIPA is IPA. JIPA has said they'll accept illustrations of the IPA that include extIPA symbols such as 𝼆.
- but extIPA symbols are not common, and there's a long tradition of using voiceless ring + uptack. because that is pervasive in the lit, it should be illustrated as well.
- where exactly the diacritics are placed is arbitrary. a generic transcription would simply stack them, but that doesn't display well in our info box. — kwami (talk) 03:11, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Señor verde please see. oklopfer (💬) 03:49, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Kwamikagami I need assistance here, as there is continued editing without discussion. oklopfer (💬) 02:42, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- The old template is not a source for “what is correct”, and this isn’t a matter of correctness, as I keep trying to explain on my talk page, but which you seem to be intent on ignoring. They are equivalent symbols, and we are using the older, phased out version to avoid collision with ascenders and descenders, and to maintain readability, in a perfectly valid ad hoc manner, that is standard to the other pages you will see on the current revisions of the Wikipedia template. Examples of this are even represented in the same link you provided, such as ⟨d̠ɹ̠˔⟩ and ⟨ʟ̠˔̊⟩. oklopfer (💬) 19:16, 16 September 2025 (UTC)