Talk:Visionary

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One who can envision the future

Is this even possible? I mean you could tell someone when the next eclipse will be, or when the next holiday will be, but that's based on past patterns and traditions, you can't predict things like what the next winning lottery numbers will be, or the next earthquake and where, etc. It should be clarified what this means, exactly. The snare (talk) 03:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. But also it seems to me from what I have read of visions that most people who are visionaries are experiencing some version of current or timeless reality (rather than 'the future', which some of us might argue does not exist until it happens!) that is not apparent to the rest of us.

The article mentions both Hildegard of Bingen and Steve Jobs as 'visionaries', although their 'visions' are hardly similar in any way!

It seems to me that if we describe Hildegard as a visionary (which makes sense to me) that she would be more like, for example, William Blake or Black Elk than Steve Jobs! Rowan Adams (talk) 13:33, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A visionist is an artist, a creator or an individual that sees beyond what is visible to the eyes and brains of human beings. Visionists are thinkers, they are the recognisable brains in society, but most times they are seen as absurd, "nerds" and misfits – they just don't fit into the societies. They are people with great dreams and minds.

Examples

• Martin Luther King Jr.
• Wright Brothers
• Sigmund Freud
• Albert Einstein
• Karl Marx

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Iainscott 11:01, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Multiple Issues

I have some issues with the writing on this page, both in content and quality. First, addressing content:

1) The scope of this article should be either much broader or much narrower. There are already pages for divination and other similar concepts, so this page should likely be split into separate pages for the religious/supernatural concept of a visionary and the societal/social/technological concept of a visionary; otherwise it should be expanded with those ideas each receiving separate and much more fleshed out sections.

2) Multiple examples presented in the article are either off topic or biased/unfactual. Aripent (talk) 00:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree with your first point. Two very different meanings of 'visionary' have been lumped together under a bad initial definition, resulting in a big muddle. Rowan Adams (talk) 13:37, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]