Talk:Short Circuit 2

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Ben Jahveri

"Ben Jahveri (his last name is a running gag on the film, mistaken as Jahrvi or something else"

Where is Ben Jahveri from? He seems to be an immigrant.

I don't know but when he was Ben Jabituya, he said he was from Bakersfield and his ancestors were from Pittsburgh. :|Lmcgregoruk (talk) 17:02, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is the joke about Jahrvi? I'd rather think that Ben Jahveri might be confused with Bon Jovi.--80.141.216.144 (talk) 10:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Toronto

Something should be added that this movie was filmed in Toronto —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.38.195 (talk) 01:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lifetime achievement?

"Honored with the Winsor McCay Award [for career achievement]"

Who was so honored? And why? McCay was a cartoonist and pioneer animator ("Gertie the Dinosaur"). What is the connection? WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 09:08, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chappie

Apparently the 2015 movie "Chappie" is a rip-off of Short Circuit 2. 2602:306:24DE:C0B9:38D7:A4C3:15E0:8BBB (talk) 02:52, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Touch-tone songs sequence

The notes that Ben plays on his calculator after wiring it into the phone line may sound like DTMF (touch tone) signals, but they aren't. They're actually notes on the A432 chromatic scale, each with an additional tone added at 2.130 times the base frequency (i.e. 13.09 semitones above it); this dissonant interval makes it sound similar to DTMF. In contrast, DTMF signals are each made of two independent tones, where the lower pitch specifies the row and the higher pitch specifies the column, without any intervals that match the chromatic scale.

The notes below are expressed in scientific pitch notation, but with an A4 at 431.8 Hz (so the secondary tone is at 431.8 × 2.130 = 919.7 Hz).

Even the initial attempt at dialing 911 doesn't use DTMF, but rather consists of the notes D#5 A4 A4. The subsequent songs are as follows:

Help me Rhonda, help help me Rhonda
D#5 C5 A#4 C5 D#5 D#5 C5 A#4 C5

They say the neon lights are bright on Broadway, on Broadway
C5 E5 C5 D5 G5 E5 C5 A#5 D5 C5 G4 D5 C5 G4

When you're alone, and life is making you lonely, you can always go, Downtown
A#4 A#4 A#4 A#4 A#4 A#4 A#4 C5 D#5 C5 A#4 D5 F5 D5 D#5 G5 A#4 D#5 A#4

Six-teen candles
G5 E5 D5 C5

Sittin' in the morning sun, I'll be sittin' when the evening comes
F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 G5 F5 A5 A5 A5 A#5 A#5 A#5 A#5 A#5 A5 G#5 G5

Do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do
B4 B4 B4 B4 B4 B4 C#5 C#5 A4 B4

Together those are made up of 14 unique base pitches, G4 A4 A#4 B4 C5 C#5 D5 D#5 E5 F5 G5 G#5 A5 A#5 (so their base tones range from 384.7 to 915.0 Hz, and secondary tones 819.4 to 1949 Hz) — which breaks the premise that they all correspond to numbers on Ben's calculator keypad.

(Nevertheless I still love the movie, including this sequence, and I understand why they did this. It's hard to render recognizable tunes in DTMF. And I suppose there may have also been the consideration that real DTMF could accidentally dial a number on someone's real phone.)

This is probably too much detail to add to the main article, but I do think it was disingenuous for it to call them polyphonic renditions and will be editing that phrase. (I'd consider it more accurate to call them monophonic renditions, because while every note does consist of two tones, the interval between them is constant, and can be considered part of the timbre.)

―Deadcode (talk) 00:08, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]