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• Talk:Northern Ireland Protocol/Archive 1#Northern Ireland Protocol Bill – Kaihsu (talk) 08:40, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't see an obvious place for this to go atm but it might be usable later when we get round to "climb down off high horse" time: The European Union is prepared to cut checks and controls "to the absolute bare minimum" if British Prime Minister Boris Johnson agrees to engage with it on the Northern Ireland Protocol, its chief Brexit negotiator has said.^[1] --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

1. Ó Cionnaith, Fiachra (17 June 2022). "EU will cut NI trade checks to bare minimum - Šefčovič". RTÉ News.

Lords second reading

Scheduled Tuesday 11 October. https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3182/stages/16925 – Kaihsu (talk) 10:34, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Committee stage from 25 October: https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3182/stages Kaihsu (talk) 14:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill is having Commons 2nd reading today. https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3340/stages Kaihsu (talk) 15:25, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Committee stage should finish today: https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3182/stages/16958 – Kaihsu (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Further Commission reaction

https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/eu-imposes-meeting-ban-on-uk-officials/

– The communique also refers to the government bill currently making its way through the UK parliament, which would give ministers the power to override the Northern Ireland protocol, If adopted, the bill would represent “a clear violation of the Withdrawal Agreement” and “constitute an unprecedented breach of international obligations and trust,” Juhansone stated. Kaihsu (talk) 11:16, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Undiscussed move

Why was this article moved to change its name? Bills don't have dates like Acts do. Parliament calls it the "Northern Ireland Protocol Bill". The WP:Common name in all media outlets is the "Northern Ireland Protocol Bill". There is no other "Northern Ireland Protocol Bill" that could be confused with it. So why?

Is there any reason not to revert? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:42, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 6 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: (well, not so) speedy moved to Northern Ireland Protocol Bill as a revert of a contested move. No such user (talk) 09:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Northern Ireland Protocol Bill 2022–23 → Northern Ireland Protocol Bill – To revert a contested move. MOTORAL1987 moved the article without prior discussion. Anything to do with Brexit or Northern Ireland but especially both is intrinsically controversial and, whatever the merits or otherwise (see above), consensus for the move should have been sought beforehand. WP:STATUSQUO. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Per WP:CRITERIA: A good Wikipedia article title has the five following characteristics:

• Recognizability (The title is a name or description of the subject that someone familiar with, although not necessarily an expert in, the subject area will recognize.) The name used by all media sources and by Parliament itself is "Northern Ireland Protocol", without further qualification. Appending a qualification is contrary to the WP:Principle of least surprise
• Naturalness – The title is one that readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use to link to the article from other articles. Such a title usually conveys what the subject is actually called in English. Same argument as just given for recognisability.
• Precision – The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects. The title "Northern Ireland Protocol Bill" is complete and unambiguous. There has never been another NIPB, nor is there likely to be.
• Concision – The title is no longer than necessary to identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects. This is true of the original (and now the proposed) title of the article. It is not true of the changed title.
• Consistency – The title is consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles. Bills are not generally dated, as Acts are. The exception to the rule arises when the same name has been used more than once, such as for Private Member's Bills. Dating is only ever used where ambiguity might arise. It does not do so in this case.

The prosecution rests. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:54, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May we assume that, since MOTORAL1987 has not responded or indeed given any defence or justification for having unilaterally moved the article, there is no objection to reverting the move? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:06, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.