Talk:Muhammad Qasim ibn Abd al-Karim

This page was proposed for deletion by Johannnes89 (talk · contribs) on 1 September 2025.

Discussion at Talk:Muhammad Qasim ibn Abd al-Karim § Summary of rewrite following PROD; request for input

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Muhammad Qasim ibn Abd al-Karim § Summary of rewrite following PROD; request for input. Ethanmiles (talk) 15:42, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Summary of rewrite following PROD; request for input

Thanks Johannnes89 for the PROD. I’ve undertaken a neutral, BLP-compliant rewrite to address the “xwiki spam / self-promotion” concern.

What changed

• Removed promotional or unverifiable claims; kept only material supported by independent sources.
• Switched to {{Infobox person}} to avoid implying religious authority not supported by sources.
• Lead focuses on verifiable facts: online publication of purported dreams and independent coverage/analysis of the phenomenon.
• Added independent coverage (Malay Mail; Yahoo MY) and analysis (ISEAS–Yusof Ishak Institute; GNET/ICSR).
• Added Reception/Responses (Selangor JAIS advisory, 28 Jan 2022) and Events in Malaysia (JAWI detention on 9 Jul 2024; Syariah charge reported 11 Jul 2024; and apology/retraction by MalaysiaGazette on 18 Jul 2024).
• Included brief Outreach/regional mentions: Indonesian outlets (Pojok Nasional; BNews) reported Malaysian hashtag activity and cited GetDayTrends ranks; this is clearly attributed and avoids any “#1” claims.
• Kept the subject’s website only in External links per WP:BLPSPS/WP:SELFPUB.

Sources used

Malay Mail; Yahoo News Malaysia; ISEAS–Yusof Ishak Institute; GNET/ICSR; Kosmo! (JAIS advisory + JAWI detention); MalaysiaGazette (Syariah charge + apology/retraction); Pojok/BNews (attributed to GetDayTrends).

Policies observed

WP:BLP, WP:V/WP:RS, WP:NPOV; caution with extraordinary claims per WP:FRINGE/WP:EXTRAORDINARY.

Questions for input

1. Is the balance between “coverage/analysis” and “events in Malaysia” appropriate, or should any section be adjusted?
2. Keep or remove the brief Pojok/BNews paragraph (attributed to GetDayTrends), per WP:DUE and WP:RS?
3. Categories are limited to BLP basics + “Pakistani social media personalities.” Any reliably sourced additions?

Diff of substantive rewrite: view

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Ethanmiles (talk) 15:37, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Creating new sockpuppets to change your own text and removing the PROD template doesn't make your crosswiki spam less spammy. Johannnes89 (talk) 16:33, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]