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departure from mission impossible

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The Leonard Nimoy biography says that he joined the show "mission impossible" when Martin Landau left the show. However, this biography fails to explain why Landau left the show, which was one of his most most acclaimed roles in movies and T.V. It would be good to explain why he left. SystemBuilder (talk) 06:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would be great if WP were an independent source of knowledge, but it isn't. It is just a summary of reliable facts that people have found notable. If there is no reliable source for an alleged fact, then it can't be stated in WP. David Spector (talk) 01:53, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cause of death

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To the various IPs you must present WP:VERIFIABLE reliable sourceing for the edit you are trying to make. The current version does have a source. Your claim of "death certificate" does not meet Wikipedia's requirements. MarnetteD|Talk 01:05, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is worth noting that all of the technical jargon of the unsourced edit still boils down to "Abdominal hemorrhage" - which IMO still makes the use sourced info referable. MarnetteD|Talk 05:12, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That is technically incorrect. Hypovolemic shock is the direct cause of his death. The hypovolemic shock was caused by the blood loss. Read the death certificate and you will see that what I'm saying is accurate. It is available online. Your source that you quote The Daily Mail is a tabloid the UK equivalent of the National Enquirer. I set up the edit so that when you click on the one it would say V the source is his death certificate. If you would like I can put the link directly to it. comment added by Adamsapple3041 (talk • where your body can use blood in the same manner that a car uses oilcontribs) 07:01, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That is virtually meaningless to the average reader. BTW the certificate is a WP:PRIMARY source. Wikipedia policy is to use WP:SECONDARY sources and that is what is in the article at the present time. MarnetteD|Talk 14:32, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is meaningless to any reader. Saying that hypovolemia was caused by blood loss is a tautology. Unless the suggestion is that Ant-man technology was at play, the only way for the volume of blood in the circulatory system to become less is for some of the blood to leave the circulatory system, in whole or a component of the blood. It is necessary to exercise some editorial discretion in choosing the information to include from a death certificate, because it can be misleading or superfluous. Klaun (talk) 16:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The MOS also supports minimizing jargon. --Light show (talk) 17:02, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, TMZ, the source for the so-called death certificate (it may not be legit given the visible alterations to it), is also a tabloid, just of the web/TV variety, so your argument about the Daily Mail is a push. Most legitimate media won't invade the family's privacy by accessing his death certificate, and splashing the details of his death around the web. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 19:39, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are 100% wrong, it is not a tautology, no Science fiction. There are various ways for a blood count to drop without blood leaving the system. There are conditions in which your body can use blood in the same way a car uses oil, thereby losing volume without a leak. It is definitely possible to go into hypovolemic shock without internal bleeding in his case it was preceded by internal bleeding but his cause of death was hypovolemic shock as I stated. There is an image of the death certificate which is more than the Daily Mail has on its site. I am striving for accuracy and you are quoting a tabloid website. At least TMZ backs up their statement with a copy of the death certificate that one can view. And no one has ever disputed the accuracy of these death certificates when they have posted them where the Daily Mail is regularly challenged and not at all considered accurate.

Death certificates are a public record here in the United States. I am quoting a verifiable public record and you are quoting a tabloid website. The information was neither misleading nor Superfluous it is 100% accurate. Stating that he died of abdominal Hemorrhage is not close to accurate. And I am sure that the powers that be at Wikipedia wish their pages to be as accurate as possible. I suggest you do a little bit of research on Google before making arrogant inaccurate statements that make you look as ridiculous as you are. Adamsapple3041 (talk) 20:08, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See: Hemolytic Anemia could be the cause. This is an autoimmune disorder whereby your body begins to attack and destroy its own red blood cells. This could be caused by tumors but often the cause is unknown. After transfusions to raise the count to normal, patients are treated with steroids and immunosuppressant medications. What do you know that is a condition in which you can lose blood volume without bleeding it seems you don't know everything after all you are far too arrogant for your own good. Adamsapple3041 (talk) 20:12, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And to be crystal clear this is only one example of many that exist. You could go into hypovolemic shock from this condition which proves that you are wrong. It is not a tautism, as you say. If you were going to Levy and insult of any kind at least be accurate in your statement otherwise you come off sounding arrogant and misinformed. I quoted a verifiable accurate legal source. I still do not understand what the issue is in that respect you insist on putting something that is connected to a tabloid of dubious distinction in the Daily Mail. TMZ backs up their facts with legal verifiable documents Adamsapple3041 (talk) 20:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

However, TMZ, even if a poor secondary source, is sensible enough to state their headline in plain language: DIED FROM MASSIVE INTERNAL BLEEDING. --Light show (talk) 20:49, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Formatting makes content more readable. Also Hemolytic Anemia does not cause hypovolemic shock. (In fact, it doesn't seem to cause death by any way [1]) That is however, a side issue. The main point is that if one loses a large volume of one's blood (for whatever reason) one will suffer hypovolemia -- because that is literally the definition of hypovolemia. Massive bleeding is perforce going to cause one to lose massive amounts of blood, which in turn is hypovolemia. A hemorrhage that can be characterized as massive necessitates hypovolemia. I did not say that hypovolemia necessitates massive hemorrhage, I said it necessitates blood loss from some cause. Hypovolemia = loss of blood (volume). Your arguments actually prove my point, that saying hypovolemia is ambigous (multiple causes) and unnecessary because massive hemorrhage already implies hypovolemia. Saying massive bleeding and hypovolemia is just repeating the same thing. Also, please WP:FOC. Klaun (talk) 01:35, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "hemolytic".

Did Martin Landau smoke?

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In the opening credits of Mission Impossible, they show Landau with a cigarette in his hand. Did he smoke in his personal life?, or was that simply a stage gimmick for Mission Impossible? If he smoked, it may have contributed to his heart disease, although he lived a pretty long life. Thanks in advance to anybody who knows. Betathetapi454 (talk) 16:14, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]