Talk:List of topics characterized as pseudoscience
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Q1: Why has my edit been reverted? What did I do wrong?
A1: Check the edit history for the article. Hopefully, the editor who reverted you left a useful edit summary explaining why they feel the previous version of the article to be better; occasionally, links to various policies and guidelines are included. The most common reasons for reversion are that the article should not contain editorial bias and every statement should be cited to sources reliable to the topic at hand. If you disagree with the reasoning provided or otherwise wish a fuller discussion, please check the archives of this discussion page for a similar proposal or open a new section below. Q2: One entry to this list is better described as an emerging or untested area of research, not pseudoscience.
A2: A few topics have several facets, only some of which are described by reliable sources as pseudoscience; multiple notable descriptions or points of view may be appropriately included as described in Wikipedia:Fringe theories. On the other hand, proponents of a particular topic characterized as pseudoscience almost always self-report as engaging in science. The several points of view should be weighted according to the reliability of the sources making each claim. Advocacy sources are reliable only for their own opinions - it is okay to state that Dr. X claims to have built a creature under the usual caveats for self-published sources, but the creature's exploits should be described as reported in independent sources. If the majority of scientists would be surprised by a claim, it is probably not mainstream science. Q3: Real scientists are investigating this topic, how can it be pseudoscience?
A3: Respected researchers, even Nobel Prize laureates, sometimes have or propound ideas that are described by sources reliable to make the distinction as pseudoscience, especially when they are working outside of their core expertise. Q4: Why is the description so negative? Why not just describe the views covered and let the reader decide?
A4: The Wikipedia policy Neutral point of view requires that the prominence of various views be reflected in the articles. We strive to summarize the tone and content of all available sources, weighted by their reliability. Reliable in this context means particulary that sources should be generally trusted to report honestly on and make the distinction between science and pseudoscience. Q5: Why does this article rely on such biased sources?
A5 Scientists generally ignore pseudoscience, and only occasionally bother to rebut ideas before they have received a great deal of attention. Non-promotional descriptions of pseudoscience can only be had from second- and third-party sources. The following sources are almost always reliable sources for descriptions of pseudoscience:
Q6: Isn't pseudoscience a philosophically meaningless term?
A6 The term describes a notable concept in common use. Q7: Why is a particular topic omitted?
A7 Some ideas are not notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia article; other topics have been explicitly rejected by the consensus of editors here at the talkpage. Please search the archives for relevant discussions before beginning a new one. Still, this list is far from complete, so feel free to suggest a topic or be bold and add it yourself. Q8: What relation does content here have to the four groupings (below) from the Arbitration Committee Decisions on Pseudoscience?
A8 Many fail to understand the nature of this list. It is not exclusively about "Obvious pseudoscience", but, as the list's title indicates, about "topics characterized as pseudoscience" (emphasis added). That wording parallels the Arbcom description from group three: "but which some critics allege to be pseudoscience" (emphasis added). Therefore we include items covered in the first three groups below, but not the fourth. In this list, we refuse to decide whether an item is or is not an "obvious" pseudoscience (although most of them are ![]()
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![]() | Arbitration ruling on the treatment of pseudoscience In December 2006, the Arbitration Committee ruled on guidelines for the presentation of topics as pseudoscience in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience. The final decision included the following:
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Add expanding Earth, now considered to be pseudoscience as per this source. 132.181.47.1 (talk) 21:38, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
The list is nice, but too terse.
[edit]For example, "The symptoms of "chronic Lyme" are generic and non-specific "symptoms of life".", which includes arthritis, swollen knees, swollen lymph nodes on neck or armpits, nail pitting and most importantly raised borrelial antibody levels in both IgM and IgG years after the original infection, treated with a very short low dose antibiotics course. Not to mention fungal and spirochaetal DNA in PCR of brain lysate of the deceased. Does the article claim that 1-day antibiotics course of two 100-miligram doxycycline treatment such was had been recommended in Texas in 2006 is a guaranteed course to clear the infection? A similar, weaker spirochaete that doesn't even have the heat shock proteins, that causes syphillis, does have a chronic stage that is long recognized. Also known to cause birth defects and abortions. Are we going to claim that it is all bogus now, that spirochaetes can not cause long lasting infections, ever?
The section on Technical Analysis tries to disprove the whole Dow Theory and Benoit Mandelbrots studies on different types of noise and random walk with tendencies. His note on the coin toss experiments is also of note, those too have exhibited trends. Or also, why does anyone try to disprove the formation of movement channels that are easily shown to be within exactly 0.5-sigma or 1-sigma levels. It is pure statistics, and yet it forms again and again. And what about the whole "return to previous levels" memory of price movements. Dead cat bounce doesn't exist or something? Disproving Technical Analysis means disproving Jesse Livermore had existed. 90.64.64.68 (talk) 06:57, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
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Remove Lysenkoism, the entire paragraph is psuedohistorical. Gosos67 (talk) 16:45, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
Not done It looks pretty historical to me, and supported by RS. If you think otherwise please provide RS. EntropyReducingGuy(We can talk, but I reply with intended delay)💧♾️➡❄️📚 17:01, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
Historical Materialism
[edit]From a brief read on the Historical Materialism section, two points stand out.
First, I do not believe the categorisation of Historical Materialism as a pseudoscience is made with the same weight of evidence as the majority of the other points on this list. Whilst there are a few sources the reference in writing is primarily around the statements of Popper. Effectively, this renders the argument that Historical Materialism is a pseudoscience down to an argument from authority.
Second, Historical Materialism is too broad a term. Does this refer to mechanistic/mechanical/vulgar historical materialism (itself rejected by Marxist theory), chemistic(?)/chemical historical materialism (a development more in line with Marxist theory which is occasionally used as a comparison), dialectical historical materialism (AKA the Marxist method of analysis), or even some kind of metaphysical historical materialism (whatever that might look like)? At the amount of breadth the article currently possesses, what remains is to claim that changes and developments in society come from elsewhere than the material world, in some way. Given how much of the article rejects a dualism of a vital force, and rightly so, it seems strange to reject monoist materialism so broadly.
If it must be included at all, these things must be taken into consideration. However, I would suggest it should be removed altogether, due to the political nature of calling historical materialism pseudoscience in a broad stroke, and with such limited basis. 2A0A:EF40:E03:2E01:D1AB:2A94:3B8C:3422 (talk) 00:07, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Are you claiming that historical materialism is a science? EntropyReducingGuy(We can talk, but I reply with intended delay)💧♾️➡❄️📚 08:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- @EntropyReducingGuy My position should be clear enough from my previous statements without going into further detail, no? 81.78.242.100 (talk) 09:07, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not really. This list includes topics that (1) some people have presented as science, but (2) have been described as pseudoscience by academics or researchers. Which of these two points do you disagree with here? EntropyReducingGuy(We can talk, but I reply with intended delay)💧♾️➡❄️📚 09:19, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- It is also not correct that Popper is the only source of this characterization. The article here also mentions Imre Lakatos and Ernest van den Haag. The article about Historical Materialism itself also mentions Walter Benjamin and Gershom Scholem. The article Criticism of Marxism also mentions Bertrand Russell and Murray Rothbard. EntropyReducingGuy(We can talk, but I reply with intended delay)💧♾️➡❄️📚 09:56, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- @EntropyReducingGuy My position should be clear enough from my previous statements without going into further detail, no? 81.78.242.100 (talk) 09:07, 18 August 2025 (UTC)