Talk:Lam Sơn uprising

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Support for the Ming

Most Vietnamese supported Ming rule, it was the semi barbarian "Trai" or "camp" people who supported Le Loi's rebellion

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA186&dq=trai+people&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sr5JUtDqGJHi9gTsyYGoAg&ved=0CEgQ6wEwAw#v=onepage&q=trai%20people&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA191&dq=kinh+people+of+capital&hl=en&sa=X&ei=g7xJUs2iMoO48wSzq4GYBg&ved=0CEwQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=kinh%20people%20of%20capital&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA210#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA177#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA182#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA191#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA186#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA5#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=P2HP31kOSA4C&pg=PA113#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=-01JisWpJbEC&pg=PA377&dq=A+history+of+the+vietnamese+muong+trai&hl=en&sa=X&ei=3stUUtmBHKjk4AO-4oCoAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=A%20history%20of%20the%20vietnamese%20muong%20trai&f=false

North and South in Binh Ngo Dai Cao might have referred to internal divisions in Vietnam (Hanoi vs Thanh Hoa) rather than China vs Vietnam

https://www.lib.washington.edu/SouthEastAsia/vsg/elist_2010/Question%20about%20Binh%20Ngo%20Dai%20Cao.html

Some Chinese stayed in Vietnam after Le Loi's revolt and even formed a unit in the Le Dai Viet army. Le Loi was a Muong and many of his followers were also non-Vietnamese ethnic minorities.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/248395427_The_Ming_factor_and_the_Emergence_of_the_Viet_in_the_15th_century

Pages 83-103

Page 95-96

http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Tana_Li/publication/248395427_The_Ming_factor_and_the_Emergence_of_the_Viet_in_the_15th_century/file/60b7d51df84438389a.pdf

Le Loi had to present himself in diplomatic language as an inferior tributary receiving his title from the Ming even though he militarily deated them.

"Narrating an Unequal Relationship: How Premodern Viet Literati Explained their Kingdom's Relationship with 'the North'"more by Le Minh Khai

http://www.academia.edu/3561498/_Narrating_an_Unequal_Relationship_How_Premodern_Viet_Literati_Explained_their_Kingdoms_Relationship_with_the_North_

09:01, 30 March 2014 (UTC)