Talk:Chochenyo language

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Requested move 2 December 2025

It has been proposed in this section that Chochenyo language be renamed and moved to Chochenyo dialect. A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Chochenyo language → Chochenyo dialect – Move back to "dialect" name as academic consensus established that Chocheño, Ramaytush and Tamyen were dialects of a San Francisco Bay language 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 18:50, 2 December 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 17:27, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect that all three proposed moves should be discussed together since they stand or fall together. I note first that there is no firm line about when a dialect becomes a language. Second that the Ohlone languages article offers sources on both sides. I also note https://cla.berkeley.edu/languages/chochenyo.html (California Language Archive, UC Berkeley) lists Chochenyo as a language so I wonder about the academic consensus. Erp (talk) 04:49, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]