Talk:Antwerp prison

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:16, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• ... that in March 2024, one detainee at Antwerp prison was tortured for several days in an overcrowded cell?

• Source: "Overcrowding blamed after inmate tortured in Antwerp prison". Belga News Agency. 2024-03-13. Unions said the man, held in a cell designed for three, was tortured by five cellmates over several days while guards were overwhelmed by overcrowding and understaffing.

• ALT1: ... that a central observation platform at the 19th-century Antwerp prison allows guards to simultaneously monitor four wings of cells? Source: "Gevangenis van Antwerpen" (in Dutch). Onroerend Erfgoed. Aan de ingang herinnert een gedenkplaat aan de terechtgestelden en politieke gevangenen uit beide wereldoorlogen.
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~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:01, 18 August 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• AirshipJungleman29 I will take a look at this one. el.ziade (talkallam) 07:55, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

• AirshipJungleman29 the first source seems broken and not archived, can you replace with this one?
• In "The design implements the cellular system promoted by Ducpétiaux and influenced by the Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia and Pentonville prison in London." I was not able to find support for the claim that it was influenced by the Eastern State Penitentiary in the cited source, have you perhaps used another source that is not mentioned?
• The link to this source is also broken, it is also not archived
• I could not find this cited passage (in the sources section) in the source you have mentioned as it is currently linked: "Het arresthuis verrees van 1854 tot 1859 op de vroegere kloostergrond van de Kapucinessen. Architect Joseph Jonas Dumont tekende de plannen en het gebouw maakt deel uit van de gevangenishervormingen onder Edouard Ducpétiaux. Het ontwerp volgde het zogenaamde cellulaire stelsel en de Amerikaanse Pennsylvania-richting, geïnspireerd op de pentagonale Pentonville-gevangenis in Londen." neither this one "Aan de ingang herinnert een gedenkplaat aan de terechtgestelden en politieke gevangenen uit beide wereldoorlogen." rather "Naast de toegang gedenkplaat die hulde brengt aan de gefusilleerden en politieke gevangen die hier opgesloten werden gedurende beide Wereldoorlogen." So it's better to drop the citations altogether or link directly to a version that cites these passages word for word.
• This source link is also dead, without archive
• Quoted text in ref 8 "At the Begijnenstraat prison the ACOD union said around 500 guards are needed, but 60 positions are vacant, leaving cells built for three men with as many as six inmates. In March 2024 a 41-year-old man was scalded and beaten by fellow prisoners while guards failed to intervene." is significantly different than the one in the source article: "In Antwerp’s central prison alone, 500 people are required to run the facility safely, says ACOD, the socialist union representing more than 2,000 prison workers across Flemish-speaking Belgium. According to ACOD, in May 2025, 60 more staff were still needed in the prison, making the understaffing rate 12%." I recommend dropping the citations with these discrepancies.
• this source is also dead
• and this one too

I am afraid that I cannot go through with this review if the broken sources cannot be fixed or alternatives provided.el.ziade (talkallam) 15:30, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]