Talk:Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry
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His Date of birth
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Kindly mention his date of birth 94.205.33.249 (talk) 16:08, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2023
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Sharif was brigadier and then promoted to 2 star general in December 2022 after taking charge of the office of DG ISPR. [1] Sadiokabaita (talk) 19:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
Took charge of the office on 3 december 2022
[2] Sadiokabaita (talk) 19:39, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
References
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The article already includes those facts. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:12, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Removal of Controversial statement "His father Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood, a nuclear scientist, was arrested in 2001 following the September 11 attacks due to suspected ties with the Taliban. It was believed that he had assisted either the Taliban, Osama bin Laden, or Al Qaeda members in constructing a nuclear weapon."
[edit]The article referenced[3] notably lacks concrete sourcing regarding the individuals or entities directly responsible for the apprehension of Mr. Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood. Moreover, it does not furnish any verifiable evidence to support the allegations leveled against him. Consequently, the discussion surrounding this issue is fraught with controversy and polarization, as the absence of authoritative verification leads to skepticism and differing interpretations among readers and editors alike. This lack of clarity fosters an environment where various stakeholders express demands for continual revisions and updates to the article on Wikipedia. Given the sensitive nature of the subject matter and the potential ramifications of incomplete or inaccurate information, it becomes imperative for the article to undergo rigorous scrutiny and editing to ensure its reliability and neutrality. Thus, addressing these concerns by providing substantiated sources and transparently presenting relevant information is crucial for fostering a more informed and balanced discourse on the platform.
In addition, it's essential to highlight the distinction between Mr. Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood and his son's Wikipedia profile. It's imperative that the son's (Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry) profile not be unduly influenced or linked to his father's controversial circumstances. While familial connections may be noteworthy, they should not overshadow the individual achievements or endeavors of the son. Ensuring the son's Wikipedia page maintains its own independent identity is crucial for upholding standards of accuracy and fairness, as well as respecting the individual's autonomy and accomplishments separate from any associations with his father's contentious situation. This clarification is crucial for maintaining the integrity and credibility of both Wikipedia articles and for accurately representing the individuals involved.
Therefore, deletion of the controversial statements along with its reference are requested/demanded. Atif ahmad8 (talk) 17:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- We can't censor the information. As I've mentioned before, if it's sourced from a reputable outlet like the NYT, it remains, even if it's inaccurate. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 17:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Given the contentious nature of the controversial statement regarding Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood's alleged ties with the Taliban, sourced from The New York Times, I propose the deletion of this statement and its reference from the Wikipedia profile. While it's crucial to maintain transparency and accuracy, the absence of concrete sourcing and the controversy surrounding the allegations warrant their removal from the article.
- Deleting the reference will not censor the information, but rather acknowledge the need for rigorous scrutiny and verification before presenting potentially contentious claims. This action aligns with Wikipedia's standards of accuracy and neutrality, ensuring that information is presented in a balanced and well-supported manner. Atif ahmad8 (talk) 17:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why don't you put the ChatGPT to rest and actually contribute something genuine to the discussion? I'm here for real conversation, not robotic replies. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 11:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Saqib for your honest work. Truthwillsurelyprevail (talk) 00:40, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- As a newbie, I would like to ask you: since there has been a massive influx of politically motivated edits, is there no way to tackle such a problem? Truthwillsurelyprevail (talk) 01:09, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Why don't you put the ChatGPT to rest and actually contribute something genuine to the discussion? I'm here for real conversation, not robotic replies. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 11:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- The idea is straightforward: because you acknowledged that the piece might be based on unfounded rumours or false information, all I'm asking for is the removal of the reference rather than censorship of the NYT article as it was published. Atif ahmad8 (talk) 19:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2024
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Dear Admin,
Page title: Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry
The page is subject to false allegations against DG of Pakistan Army. He is well esteemed person and nice human being.
In Family section his father is subject to false allegations against him. Therefore, it is requested that it should be removed for now. Change: who was arrested in 2001 following the September 11 attacks due to suspected ties with the Taliban. It was believed that Mahmood had assisted either the Taliban, Osama bin Laden, or Al Qaeda members in constructing a nuclear weapon.
Thank you. 154.192.47.86 (talk) 20:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Not done If the info's well-backed, it shouldn't get axed. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 21:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Request for page protection.
[edit]I want to bring attention to the concerning issue of persistent vandalism and disruption. The page has been subjected to frequent instances of edits and disruptive behavior, compromising the integrity of the information presented.
Despite efforts to revert these edits and maintain the accuracy, the frequency and severity of vandalism have escalated, necessitating stronger measures to ensure its protection. As such, I request that the Wikipedia page be placed under protection lock to prevent further modifications. Atif ahmad8 (talk) 06:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2025
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Removal of parent name as it is misinformation. A Ahmed Sharif Choudhary is from the Chaudhary Clan and is not affiliated with Sultan bashiruddin Mahmood this comes under propaganda which has been propagated by the Indian media without any proof. This makes this Wikipedia source unreliable and could be the mistake of a biased report. There are only Indian media news outlets reporting this and this has been proven unreliable as they stock on fake news to win an information war vs Pakistan. [1] One very easy way to disregard this claim is the naming itself. </ref>https://culturalatlas.sbs.com.au/pakistani-culture/pakistani-culture-naming<ref> It is common practice to give the father's most commonly addressed name to the child as their last name. This is also applied to some married females, who adopt their husband's most commonly addressed name as their surname. Usually the last names are passed down. Bashiruddin Mahmood and Ahmad Chaudary are different genealogies entirely. Liedoctor (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Not done: None of the cited sources are deprecated sources per WP:DEPS and 2 out of the 3 are Pakistani news outlets, not Indian. Basing your argument on typical naming conventions and common practice is WP:OR and is not allowed. You have not provided any reliable sources to support your claim. SI09 (talk) 10:08, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
An error in the statement from India
[edit]on 8 May 2025 instead of 8 May 2005. 157.10.7.85 (talk) 12:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)