Talk:2025 Hamas–Doghmush conflict

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Requested move 13 October 2025

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2025 Hamas–Doghmush conflict → October 2025 Hamas–Doghmush clan clashes – Would be a more accurate title for the content of the article, also "Doghmush clan" is more correct than simply "Doghmush" Evaporation123 (talk) 19:34, 13 October 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 10:07, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support It would be more accurate to just say October given it is a conflict in October. Clan would be good to include as well for more information and accuracy. GothicGolem29 (talk) 00:00, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What about Hamas–Doghmush conflict it would be more consistent with pages such as: Hamas-Popular Forces conflict and the Fatah-Hamas conflict JaxsonR (talk) 00:27, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's a small punctuation error in the two titles mentioned by JaxsonR. In the actual article titles, the hyphens are en dashes. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:54, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is the article subject is about the October clashes, not about the long history of tensions between both parties which i believe has been flaring on and off since like the 2000s. Evaporation123 (talk) 03:18, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That would mean the article subject needs to be expanded because right now it is about the October clahses. GothicGolem29 (talk) 16:49, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm honestly fine with the name right now. JaxsonR (talk) 16:52, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok(albeit I disagree per my support comment.) GothicGolem29 (talk) 17:14, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

At least the title should use an en dash rather than a hyphen. October 2025 Hamas–Doghmush conflict seems good to me. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:31, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support - per nom. Hsnkn (talk) 03:40, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Suggest alternative 2025 Hamas–Doghmush conflict. There doesn't seem to have been any other reiterations of this conflict in 2025, so the month should not be in the title. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 11:59, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Chicdat, oppose original User:Easternsahara_{please review this and this} 21:22, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose adding the month (redundant), oppose changing the name from conflict to clan clashes (too wordy). Lova Falk (talk) 05:03, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Chicdat's alternative, the month is redundant and we don't know yet what November will bring. Lova Falk (talk) 08:25, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isn’t this just the current name? GothicGolem29 (talk) 11:18, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The difference is a hyphen or a dash. Lova Falk (talk) 05:03, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks. GothicGolem29 (talk) 14:37, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chicdat's alternative is fine with me. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:42, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Palestine has been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPath^talk 10:07, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - per constistancy.

KashanAbbas (talk) 04:34, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Oppose adding clan, Consistency Note regarding month. Adding the word clan weighs against WP:CONCISE, and I would only agree with it if referring to the group simply as Doghmush is just incorrect. Right now, the article indicates in the infobox section that the conflicts continue until present. If that is true, then including October in the title would likely be inaccurate. Ilvekset (talk) 15:38, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose October. Weak support' clan. Despite CONCISE, Doghmush itself isnt fully clear. Also, this might be worth a merge into Doghmush clan, but Im not sure. It is somewhat notable on its own. A general article about Hamas clashes with other groups might be worth considering also. ← Metallurgist (talk) 21:37, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox needed.

Per above JaxsonR (talk) 22:16, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should also add a picture to the infobox. 2605:4A80:7400:8500:0:0:0:B379 (talk) 20:53, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@2605:4A80:7400:8500:0:0:0:B379 The map from the main Gaza war page would be the only thing available until a non copy right Image is released JaxsonR (talk) 20:56, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be fine with that. 2605:4A80:7400:8500:0:0:0:B379 (talk) 01:58, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If we still don't have a public domain image in a few days, I think we should go through with the map of Gaza. 2605:4A80:7400:8500:F9E9:75F8:C23E:C197 (talk) 02:07, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]