Talk:2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 April 2025

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Include the participation of the University of Toronto and the University of Ottawa in Canada to the page. Magnacartaholygrailed (talk) 02:19, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 03:55, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

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Any thought on merging 2025 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses into this and renaming it? The protests have been ongoing since 2023. It might make more sense to have one comprehensive article, such as Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses (2023 to present) or similar. Or Student protests against the Gaza War. And so on. This article is enormous as is, so might need to be redivided differently and simplified, but it is really all the same ongoing connected set of events. Metallurgist (talk) 00:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the articles of each year are already so long, and with distinct Universities involved... There are very different well-covered events happening in 2023, and 2024, and 2025. Clumping them together may just make things even more confusing. I suggest keeping them separate. Afonso Dimas Martins (talk) 08:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a tough one because the protests are a series of ongoing events happening over several years, so grouping them by year seems somewhat arbitrary. On the other hand, this article is already long. I'm trying to brainstorm other ways besides year that we could group these protests...perhaps by geographic location? Marquardtika (talk) 15:56, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that is a good point, it can feel arbitrary to separate them in time when they are ongoing. On the other hand each year was marked by vastly different reactions from both the universities and by the general public, as well as differences in police intervention and media coverage. Even clumping by geographic location they will be still quite long. Splitting by year and country is a common approach for large, evolving protest movements. But you're right and maybe we can actually have both? For example, the George Floyd protests are organized both in a broader category and in smaller more time-contained events (e.g., the broad George Floyd protests vs the specific George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon). This could allow for newcomers to go into the more generic page, and then if they are interested they could dive and get a more complete picture in the individual pages of each year. Afonso Dimas Martins (talk) 18:56, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think I oppose this move, because the 2024 protests article is already so long that the reactions and responses had to be split out (which I think was a bad idea - the administrative and police responses are an inexorable part of the story). I also think there's an argument to be made that the 2025 protests, taking place under the climate of the Trump administration, are qualitatively different enough to warrant a separate page. Monk of Monk Hall (talk) 22:26, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe there is a way to better divide it. I think they need to be reorganized somehow. No rush, just wanted to start brainstorming ideas. We could simplify the main article and break it down into more geographic ones. I think geography might be more relevant than time because of the regional cultures involved. The other issue with doing it by year is the academic year carries over the year, so it really should be 23/24 and 24/25 etc. Ill have to go look at other examples like Occupy to see what has been tried before. I think people also are more likely to search by location and generality than by year. Thanks for the input everyone! Again, no rush on this. Metallurgist (talk) 20:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also oppose, we have split off enough child articles; List of protests (including U.S. protests and California protests), along with Reactions, not to mention the numerous standalone protest articles, so there is no reason to merge more content to this article to avoid WP:ARTICLESIZE issues in the near future. This article is current adequately sized, so ideally we'd keep it that way. CNC (talk) 12:40, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - broadly in agreement with the points already expressed by those who oppose. Lf8u2 (talk) 02:47, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Assault on Jewish student at Harvard

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Harvard gave a $65,000 fellowship to one of its students after a video proved that he had assaulted a Jewish student. He was prosecuted in court and made a plea deal, and then the school awarded him the fellowship.

This is a very unusual way for a college to respond to a violent hate crime. I think it should be included in the article.

https://freebeacon.com/campus/harvard-law-review-awards-65k-fellowship-to-student-charged-in-assault-of-israeli-classmate-report/

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/harvard-grad-students-ordered-to-attend-anger-management-after-assault-at-pro-palestinian-protest/3699287/

https://x.com/ShabbosK/status/1898519998672298315

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX88ZGfdKl4

R5Y93mdf (talk) 00:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

placed an alert on your talk page, but gonna put it here: you need well-structured WP:EDITREQUESTS if you do not have 500 edits for this topic area.
also, X and youtube are not reliable sourcing. freebeacon is reliable, but i have questions about WP:DUEness Bluethricecreamman (talk) 02:46, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Washington Free Beacon is described as generally unreliable on the Perennial sources list. The Beacon source describes the victim as Israeli, rather than Jewish. It also does not use the phrase "violent hate crime" to describe the incident. Burrobert (talk) 05:40, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Washington Free Beacon actually has a decent reputation for investigative journalism and has had some successes in publicizing scandals. Its political reporting, however, is somewhat suspect. Politically, it is aligned with Neoconservatism. And the website is funded by Paul Singer, a long-time supporter of the Republican Party who also provides funds for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. Dimadick (talk) 08:02, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dimadick R5Y93mdf blocked as a sock Doug Weller talk 13:53, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments, everyone. I don't plan to be commenting on this talk page again while having less than 500 edits. R5Y93mdf (talk) 03:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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