Talk:2023 EFL League Two play-off final

2023 EFL League Two play-off final is currently a Football good article nominee. Nominated by  — Amakuru (talk) at 15:53, 20 July 2025 (UTC) Any editor who has not nominated or contributed significantly to this article may review it according to the good article criteria to decide whether or not to list it as a good article. To start the review process, click start review and save the page. (See here for the good article instructions.) Short description: Association football match

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A fact from 2023 EFL League Two play-off final appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 June 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final saw a father–son duo on opposing coaching sides? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2025/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2023 EFL League Two play-off final.

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of 2023 EFL League Two play-off final's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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• From 2014 Football League Two play-off final: "Burton Albion 0–1 Fleetwood Town". BBC Sport. 26 May 2014. Archived from the original on 27 January 2016. Retrieved 26 May 2014.
• From 2019 EFL League Two play-off final: Pearlman, Michael (25 May 2019). "Newport County 0–1 Tranmere Rovers". BBC Sport. Archived from the original on 4 October 2020. Retrieved 9 October 2020.
• From 2001 Football League Third Division play-off final: "Clockwatch: Blackpool 4–2 Orient". BBC Sport. 26 May 2001. Archived from the original on 24 February 2003. Retrieved 6 April 2021.
• From 2005 Football League Two play-off final: "Lincoln City 0–2 Southend United". BBC Sport. 28 May 2005. Retrieved 10 March 2021.
• From 1998 Football League Third Division play-off final: "Colchester promoted". BBC News. 22 May 1998. Retrieved 19 February 2021.
• From 2000 Football League Third Division play-off final: "Posh pull it off at Wembley". BBC News. 26 May 2000. Archived from the original on 3 March 2003. Retrieved 14 April 2021.
• From 2017 EFL League Two play-off final: Law, James (28 May 2017). "Blackpool 2–1 Exeter City". BBC Sport. Archived from the original on 8 April 2019. Retrieved 16 March 2021.
• From 2007 Football League Two play-off final: Bevan, Chris (26 May 2007). "Bristol Rovers 3–1 Shrewsbury". BBC Sport. Archived from the original on 27 August 2017. Retrieved 12 June 2021.
• From English Football League play-offs: "Stoke seal promotion". BBC Sport. 11 May 2002. Archived from the original on 17 December 2003. Retrieved 14 March 2021.
• From 2022 EFL League Two play-off final: Aloia, Andrew (28 May 2022). "Mansfield Town 0–3 Port Vale". BBC Sport. Archived from the original on 4 June 2022. Retrieved 3 June 2022.
• From 2015 Football League Two play-off final: "Southend United 1–1 Wycombe Wanderers". BBC Sport. 23 May 2015. Archived from the original on 23 May 2015. Retrieved 24 May 2015.
• From 2003 Football League Third Division play-off final: "Bournemouth win seals promotion". BBC Sport. 24 May 2003. Archived from the original on 30 May 2008. Retrieved 7 May 2021.
• From 2002 Football League Third Division play-off final: "Cheltenham crack Diamonds". BBC Sport. 6 May 2002. Archived from the original on 10 May 2004. Retrieved 3 March 2021.
• From 2020 EFL League Two play-off final: Pilnick, Brent (29 June 2020). "Exeter City 0–4 Northampton Town". Archived from the original on 30 June 2020. Retrieved 29 November 2020.
• From 2008 Football League Two play-off final: Fletcher, Paul (26 May 2008). "Stockport 3–2 Rochdale". BBC Sport. Archived from the original on 27 August 2017. Retrieved 17 May 2021.
• From 2021 EFL League Two play-off final: Pearlman, Michael (31 May 2021). "Morecambe 1–0 Newport County". BBC Sport. Archived from the original on 31 May 2021. Retrieved 31 May 2021.
• From 2018 EFL League Two play-off final: Law, James (28 May 2018). "Coventry City 3–1 Exeter City". BBC Sport. Archived from the original on 12 April 2019. Retrieved 16 July 2020.
• From 2004 Football League Third Division play-off final: "Huddersfield 0–0 Mansfield". BBC Sport. 31 May 2004. Archived from the original on 26 June 2004. Retrieved 5 April 2021.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• ... that two years after Carlisle United beat Stockport County in the the League Two play-off final, Carlisle have now dropped to the National League while Stockport play in League One?

• Source: [1] - Carlisle beat Stockport (2023); [2] - Carlisle relegated to National League (2025); [3] - Stockport failed to be promoted to the Championship so are now continuing to play in League One (2025)

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Oslo Study
• Comment: I was hoping to add the extra nugget that Stockport were still seeking promotion to the Championship, had they won their match against Leyton Orient, but that wasn't to be. It's still an interesting fact (I think) that since Carlisle's win they have gone right down, while Stockport have gone up

5x expanded by Amakuru (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

 — Amakuru (talk) 22:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• May or may not review this, but I don't see how the hook is interesting to non-association football fans, particularly those not well-versed in English soccer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Amakuru: Looking at the article, the fact that stands out the most to me is that Carlisle's manager Paul Stockton's son Jake was part of the coaching staff for their opponents Stockport. Maybe you can propose a hook based on that? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't heard back from Amakuru so proposing these suggestions:

ALT1 ... that during the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final, Paul Stockton managed Carlisle, while his son Jake was part of the coaching staff for their opponents Stockport County?

ALT2 ... that manager Paul Stockton and his son Jake were part of opposing teams' coaching staff during the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final?

How do these sound? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:26, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some additional suggestions from Toadspike (ALT3/ALT4) and Bremps (ALT5) respectively on Discord (slightly modified):

ALT3 ... that after winning the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final, Carlisle United were relegated twice in two years?

ALT4 ... that the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final saw a father-son duo on opposing coaching sides?

ALT5 ... that the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final featured the Simpsons?

Thoughts on the above? Given the issues with the original hook I've struck it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: apologies I'm away for a few days and likely to be only on patchily. I'd be fine with any of these suggestions, thanks for looking into this. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 11:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Also striking ALT1 and ALT2 as superseded by the other suggestions. Full review needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:21, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:59, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Preference for ALT3 or 4; ALT5 feels too misleading. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:10, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I have a slight preference for ALT4 as I think that it's less reliant on being an association football fan compared to ALT3. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]