Talk:125th Heavy Mechanized Brigade

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@Kalpesh Manna 2002

You claim that this source can be used as a citation to support the association of the 125th Heavy Mechanized Brigade with the 3rd Army Corps.

The source mentions a lot of different military units but more importantly does not mention the 125th Brigade or the 3rd Army Corps once.

This makes it an irrelevant source inappropriate for this article.

I do not understand your persistent restoration of this source here and would appreciate an explanation.

SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) (contributions) 08:32, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The relevant portion of the source, translated into English, is as follows:

Today we are working in the Kharkiv region along with our defenders. I met with the heads and the soldiers of the 2nd Corps of the National Guard of Ukraine (NGU), the 3rd Brigade of the NGU, the 13th Brigade (Khartiia) of the NGU, the 17th Brigade (Poltava) and the 18th Brigade (Sloviansk) of the NGU, the 72nd Separate Mechanized Brigade named after the Black Zaporozhians of the 12th Army Corps of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 92nd Separate Assault Brigade named after koshovyi otaman Ivan Sirko of Operational Command East of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, [and] the 127th Heavy Mechanized Brigade of the 11th Army Corps of Operational Command East of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Notice that there is absolutely no mention of the 125th Heavy Mechanized Brigade or the 3rd Army Corps.
SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) (contributions) 08:41, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did you fully read the reference? Most of it is Ukrainian I suggest you to use translator software to read through it patiently before making changes to this article. It is an official website of an Ukrainian government official. So it has full authenticity. Please take your time before making any hesity judgement. Kalpesh Manna 2002 (talk) 08:42, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) (contributions) 08:42, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you show me where it mentions the 125th Brigade and the 3rd Army Corps? This source is unrelated to those units. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) (contributions) 08:46, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added a more comprehensive source about all the heavy mechanized brigades of Ukrainian army. If you are not satisfied I can added more sources. Kalpesh Manna 2002 (talk) 08:54, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am not satisfied. You have been informed many times that MilitaryLand.Net is a deprecated source which is not suitable for Wikipedia (RSN 1, RSN 2, and RSN 3), but for some reason you choose to ignore this.
I am still waiting for you to either demonstrate that this source has anything to do with the 125th Brigade and the 3rd Corps. If you have realized that the source is completely irrelevant to these units, then it's time to self-revert your edits. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) (contributions) 09:02, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Military land net is the most comprehensive website for Ukrainian military units on the internet available in English language. The RSN notices you sent are all from 2 to 3 years ago. Military land net has been through several changes since then and now sited by established news sources and websites. I think you should bring up the source in the forum again to properly varify it's reliably in it's current date. Kalpesh Manna 2002 (talk) 09:10, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it is time that the consensus on MilitaryLand is reconsidered, but it is your responsibility and not mine to raise it at that forum and get the consensus changed before you start adding it to Wikipedia articles again. In the meantime you are meant to respect the consensus instead of disregarding it because it is a few years old.
I take your ignorance of the second part of my reply to mean that you have no comment on the Telegram source and will not revert me after I remove it from this article.
SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) (contributions) 09:18, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add those informations right back. And not only in this article but all the articles where you have removed sourced informations form. Kalpesh Manna 2002 (talk) 09:23, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You really need to stop beating around the bush.
I have demonstrated here that this source has absolutely nothing to do with the 125th Brigade or the 3rd Army Corps.
You claim for some reason that it does. I have asked you multiple times to prove it to me. You have ignored me when I asked you to do that.
SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) (contributions) 09:26, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you remove information from 127th Heavy Mechanized Brigade article despite it being sourced according to yourself? Kalpesh Manna 2002 (talk) 09:48, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
At the time when I removed it there was no source. Your new edit adds a source that never existed in that article before.
How many times am I going to have to ask you to address your baseless claim that this source supports an association between the 125th Brigade and the 3rd Army Corps? Every time you ignore the question or try to change the subject it seems more likely that you are operating in bad faith. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) (contributions) 09:57, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]